View Full Version : Mark Coleman vs. Stephan Bonnar set for can't-miss UFC 100 event
bleSs
04-09-2009, 02:24 PM
A long-rumored light-heavyweight bout between "The Ultimate Fighter 1" runner-up Stephan Bonnar (11-5 MMA, 5-4 UFC) and UFC hall-of-famer Mark Coleman (15-9 MMA, 6-4 UFC) is finally set for UFC 100.
MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) first reported the possibility of the bout in early March, though a source close to Coleman said at the time that he had not signed a bout agreement.
Fellow fighter Amir Sadollah confirmed the booking during the latest Burger King-sponsored "Inside the Octagon" segment, which air weekly in conjunction with new episodes of "The Ultimate Fighter 9" on Spike TV.
UFC 100 takes place July 11 at the Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas and airs on pay per view.
Much like his opponent, Bonnar finds himself in a must-win situation. Bonnar, who's battled with inconsistency since joining the UFC in 2005, has now lost three of his past five fights, which included a unanimous-decision loss earlier this year to Jon Jones at UFC 94.
Coleman, who announced his return to the UFC after an induction into the organization's hall of fame last year, was originally slated to fight Brock Lesnar in his first post-retirement fight. However, a knee injury forced Coleman out of that UFC 87 fight, and instead, he met Mauricio "Shogun" Rua at UFC 93 in January. Coleman kept things close early, but both fighters fatigued as the bout wore on. Coleman eventually suffered a third-round TKO; it was his fourth loss in his past six fights.
The UFC this week announced three official bouts for UFC 100. UFC heavyweight champion Brock Lesnar takes on interim heavyweight title-holder Frank Mir (in a title-unification bout), and UFC welterweight champ Georges St. Pierre meets top contender Thiago Alves. Additionally, "The Ultimate Fighter 9" coaches Michael Bisping and Dan Henderson are also slated to fight at the event.
For the latest on UFC 100, stay tuned to the UFC Rumors section of MMAjunkie.com.
(Pictured: Mark Coleman)
Source-http://mmajunkie.com/news/14516/mark-coleman-vs-stephan-bonnar-set-for-cant-miss-ufc-100-event.mma
Malky
04-09-2009, 02:32 PM
Bonnar should take this sub rnd 3
bleSs
04-09-2009, 02:34 PM
The way bonnar looked his last fight.. I know Jones is a good fighter but Bonnar looked like an Amature. He is deff going to loose this one..
KJ Brophy
04-09-2009, 02:36 PM
I hope Coleman wins, I can't stand Bonnar
Negative2
04-09-2009, 02:47 PM
It would be nice to see Coleman pull out a victory here. He will probably end up gassing literally in the first 2 or 3 minutes and Bonnar will take him out with some light gnp which Coleman will visibly not be defending himself well enough, the ref will stop the fight and it'll be called premature.
southpaw447
04-09-2009, 02:49 PM
I find myself rooting for Coleman here but I just don't see him winning.
His cardio is terrible, his striking is still sub-par and I find it hard to believe that if he does get Bonnar down that he will be able to do any damage
bbjd7
04-09-2009, 02:50 PM
Bonnar will win by submission.
It's not too hard to sub Coleman.
FunkYou
04-09-2009, 03:01 PM
Bonnar will take this.
He didn't look great in his last fight but he had a long lay off and Jones looked much better than expected, by me anyway.
MJB23
04-09-2009, 03:08 PM
I want Colemen to win this but I really don't see it happening.
He's gonna gas 1 minute into the fight and then Bonnar will either GnP him or sub him for the win in the first round.
Aaron
04-09-2009, 03:22 PM
Bonnar will win by submission.
It's not too hard to sub Coleman.
yet shogun couldn't do it despite several chances....
i like coleman in this fight
bleSs
04-09-2009, 03:26 PM
yet shogun couldn't do it despite several chances....
i like coleman in this fight
Exactly!! I think Coleman will gas sure but Slogun LOL couldn't put him away and he is a way better fighter than Bonnar
bbjd7
04-09-2009, 03:27 PM
Shogun didn't do it because he looked like utter garbage in that fight but he set up a ton of chances to submit him.
Coleman let himself get put into that Omoplata and Shogun didn't finish it for some reason I'm not sure why?
Coleman's submission defense isn't good Shogun rolled for kneebar's and gave Coleman fits on the gronud until about round 3 when Coleman had some success on the ground.
FunkYou
04-09-2009, 03:28 PM
Exactly!! I think Coleman will gas sure but Slogun LOL couldn't put him away and he is a way better fighter than Bonnar
Bonnar is a better fighter than Shogun was in that fight.
bleSs
04-09-2009, 03:37 PM
Bonnar is a better fighter than Shogun was in that fight.
LOL Bonnar did look bad in his last fight but your right Shogun looked terrible last fight..
Aaron
04-09-2009, 03:41 PM
Shogun didn't do it because he looked like utter garbage in that fight but he set up a ton of chances to submit him.
Coleman let himself get put into that Omoplata and Shogun didn't finish it for some reason I'm not sure why?
Coleman's submission defense isn't good Shogun rolled for kneebar's and gave Coleman fits on the gronud until about round 3 when Coleman had some success on the ground.
bonnar isn't a submission wizard tho...otherwise, he would have handles Jones.....
you can say what you want about the omablata....but that never finishes anybody in mma....i've never seen someone tap from it....the reason he didn't "finish it" was b/c he was sucking wind so bad he couldn't even shift his hips....
coleman's submission defense doesn't need to be good, it just needs to be decent...bonnar isn't a submission artist and looked like garbage against jones.
this works out well b/c if/when coleman wins, and if Brock loses to Mir, they can market that fight again at HW....since coleman has no future at 205
bbjd7
04-09-2009, 03:45 PM
I'm not a Bonnar fan don't get me wrong I think the guy is ok on the ground and ok standing and not good enough to really compete in the UFC LHW division.
Shogun didn't try to finish the omoplata and yea it's a move that is kinda easy to get out of in MMA but Coleman didn't even try to get out of it. He just lied there with his face on the mat what kind of submission defense is that. Shogun should've finished it either with taht or with soft tap punches but that's a different story.
Anyway I just don't see how Coleman will win this? He really isn't safe being on top of Bonnar and standing he has never been very good.
Bonnar isn't a great grappler hell he's probably not even good but he should be able to submit Coleman.
KJ Brophy
04-09-2009, 04:48 PM
I wonder if Coleman wins if Bonnar will still be with the UFC
FunkYou
04-09-2009, 05:09 PM
Didn't Dana say that Bonnar would always have a place in the UFC?
KJ Brophy
04-09-2009, 05:24 PM
Yeah but if he loses to Coleman that might change and if he looks bad it has to hurt his chances staying in the UFC.
FunkYou
04-09-2009, 05:32 PM
Yeah but I really can't see him losing to Coleman. If Shogun hadn't gassed after three minutes into the fight he would and should have finished the fight. Bonnar's striking is easily good enough to takeColeman out.
Yeah but I really can't see him losing to Coleman. If Shogun hadn't gassed after three minutes into the fight he would and should have finished the fight. Bonnar's striking is easily good enough to takeColeman out.
I gotta agree with you here and I am really suprised anyone is even arguing that Coleman will have a chance.
Bonnar isnt a great fighter but all he needs in this fight is cardio. Once Coleman gasses if he still has gas he will easily be able to get the ref to call the fight by GnP. Coleman sucks and had Shogun not looked absolutely pathetic in their fight he would've finished it 17 times over
IcemanCometh
04-09-2009, 06:16 PM
bonnar isn't a submission wizard tho...otherwise, he would have handles Jones.....
you can say what you want about the omablata....but that never finishes anybody in mma....i've never seen someone tap from it....the reason he didn't "finish it" was b/c he was sucking wind so bad he couldn't even shift his hips....
coleman's submission defense doesn't need to be good, it just needs to be decent...bonnar isn't a submission artist and looked like garbage against jones.
this works out well b/c if/when coleman wins, and if Brock loses to Mir, they can market that fight again at HW....since coleman has no future at 205
Bonnar snapped his knee and wasn't able to train for 6+ months and not to mention Jones was on fire that night. Regardless, Bonnar has proven in the past he has a decent groundgame-he maynot be a wizard but he is far better than the Hammer on the ground. He also has proven he has a better gas tank than Mr. Coleman and is a better striker. That all being said I fail to see where Coleman wins this match up. Maybe after this we can set up Coleman/Boetsch loser leaves the UFC match.
Aaron
04-09-2009, 06:45 PM
Bonnar snapped his knee and wasn't able to train for 6+ months and not to mention Jones was on fire that night. Regardless, Bonnar has proven in the past he has a decent groundgame-he maynot be a wizard but he is far better than the Hammer on the ground. He also has proven he has a better gas tank than Mr. Coleman and is a better striker. That all being said I fail to see where Coleman wins this match up. Maybe after this we can set up Coleman/Boetsch loser leaves the UFC match.
I disagree, Bonnar doesn't have the skills of a Fedor or Nog on the ground, the only people to ever finish Mark by submission.
And Bonnar does not have a good gastank...he gassed badly against Jones, and even tho his gastank will probably be better, it won't stop him from getting taken down repeatedly
FunkYou
04-09-2009, 06:47 PM
He had a massive lay off before the Jones so I can forgive his gas tank in that fight - Same as i forgave shogun's performance against Griffen. If he comes in ang gasses against Coleman I would be suprised.
He should be able to finish Mark with strikes.
IcemanCometh
04-09-2009, 07:37 PM
I disagree, Bonnar doesn't have the skills of a Fedor or Nog on the ground, the only people to ever finish Mark by submission.
And Bonnar does not have a good gastank...he gassed badly against Jones, and even tho his gastank will probably be better, it won't stop him from getting taken down repeatedly
Not ture, he was submitted by Nobuhiko Takada by heel hook. He isn't a wizard of staying out of submissions. And Fedor used arm bars to beat him-pretty easy submission IMO. If Mark gases like he did against Shogun he won't be doing many takedowns. Furthermore, he is no Jones so his takedowns won't be beautiful throws they will be shitty telegraphed shoots. I am sure Stephan can crack him as he comes in and make Coleman pay for it.
FunkYou
04-09-2009, 07:40 PM
Not ture, he was submitted by Nobuhiko Takada by heel hook. He isn't a wizard of staying out of submissions. And Fedor used arm bars to beat him-pretty easy submission IMO. If Mark gases like he did against Shogun he won't be doing many takedowns. Furthermore, he is no Jones so his takedowns won't be beautiful throws they will be shitty telegraphed shoots. I am sure Stephan can crack him as he comes in and make Coleman pay for it.
Wasn't that fight fixed though?
Suizida
04-09-2009, 07:45 PM
No way Coleman wins this. Honestly, there is no reason why Coleman should be in the UFC. I respect what he did as a pioneer's, but he isn't anywhere near the level of what a UFC fighter should be.
and bonnar is really copping a lot of flak on this forum.
IcemanCometh
04-09-2009, 07:49 PM
Wasn't that fight fixed though?
Its rumored to be fixed and honestly I didn't know that till you brought it up. I still say Coleman can be subbed as bbjd was saying he had zero defense against Shogun and as I stated Fedor got him in a pretty easy submission I am sure Bonnar will more than hold his own.
That shit was fixed. Dude got payed 50k to drop that fight.
If Coleman gasses like he did in the last fight and Bonnar is able to keep his shit together for 2 rounds I think he wins this fight. Bonnar gassed in his last fight but Coleman was a fucking zombie out there.
All Bonnar has to do is survive the early assault, then keep it standing the rest of the fight and pick Mark apart. Dont even bother with trying to sub him where Coleman can use his wrestling.
Aaron
04-09-2009, 10:56 PM
Its rumored to be fixed and honestly I didn't know that till you brought it up. I still say Coleman can be subbed as bbjd was saying he had zero defense against Shogun and as I stated Fedor got him in a pretty easy submission I am sure Bonnar will more than hold his own.
it was definitely a fixed fight
Tony Starks
04-09-2009, 10:57 PM
I like Coleman's chances in this one, I think he will control Bonnar on the mat and win by GnP.
Coleman still has a few good fights left in him and will not dissapoint!
Malky
04-10-2009, 04:01 AM
Bonnar has a well rounded skill set he is okay everywhere, in his last fight Jones was on top form, not much could be done about that. Bonnar also got dropped by a beautiful but unintentionally illegal spinning elbow to the back of the head, that rocked him badly.
Coleman on the other hand looked shit against a shit Shogun, it was embarrassing. Coleman might win rnd 1 by LnP, but thats it then he will gas and Bonnar will sink in a easy sub.
Kingofkings
04-10-2009, 04:17 AM
Interesting fight....I guess I will take Coleman in a slugfest by decision.
And btw...I don't think coleman will ever get the opportunity to fight Lesnar.
Embry
04-13-2009, 08:37 PM
I think this will be a good fight. although I think that Bonnar will win this. His cardio is pretty good, and his ground game is pretty good as well. i think he is going to come back better then before because of how disappointed he was in his last fight.
randyspankstito
04-14-2009, 11:43 AM
I'll defintely be pulling for the hammer on this one. I don't really like bonnar, and the hammer is a legend.
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