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vexred
02-05-2011, 06:00 PM
it's just our luck to have Ameobi get injured for so long. the problem was that we had little time to find someone & all the other clubs would have ripped us off knowing we had 35mil. whatever happens in the summer, we'll have a lot of money because I think a top team will try and buy Tiote. Tiote is such a beast.
Torres definately showed his worth.
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FunkYou
02-07-2011, 03:45 AM
Could hardly have asked for a better day of results. Spurs back in the hunt for 4th. Opened up the gap betwen us and 6th.
Lots of winnable games coming up for us, oh and a CL tie against AC Milan. Good time to be a yid.
So, Villa beat Denmark last night :D.
FunkYou
02-11-2011, 03:28 AM
So, Villa beat Denmark last night :D.
And as is the way with all things connected to Villa - no one gives a shit.
Haha, true.
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Enjoying your new stadium?
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FunkYou
02-11-2011, 03:44 AM
Haha, true.
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Enjoying your new stadium?
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I, like most Spurs fans, are glad that West Ham are finally getting the care in the community treatment.
The idea of Tottenham being based in Newham is just plain wrong to my mind.
The real thing I have a problem with is cunts like David Lammy bitching about taking the Tottenham name from Spurs if they move but at the same time making it prohibitively expensive for us to redevelop one of the most run down areas of London.
It will be quite funny seeing West Ham fail to fill even half of their ground most weeks, although I hate the fact that Sullivan, Gold and Brady (slag) have got it.
FunkYou
02-11-2011, 07:56 AM
It will be quite funny seeing West Ham fail to fill even half of their ground most weeks, although I hate the fact that Sullivan, Gold and Brady (slag) have got it.
They would fill it if they got the ground now but considering the fact they will be playing in the Championship by the time their get their paws on it, the chances are not so good.
They're not even selling out Upton Park that regularly as it is and that's only a 35k seater. They'd do okay for a season maybe, up until the novelty wore off.
FunkYou
02-11-2011, 08:36 AM
At least Spurs can realistically say we would seell out every week. We could do it pretty much on Season ticket holders alone if the enire waiting list got one.
Also I might ocasionally be able to go to a game again.
Oh and in case I didn't make it clear - Fuck David Lammy
Problem, Funk?
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EDIT: Motherfucker.
vexred
02-12-2011, 02:27 PM
Does anyone else think that West Ham will stay up? I think they're going to stay up, just.
Hard to say, there's so many bad teams down there right now.
Rooney's goal today was fucking amazing.
FunkYou
02-13-2011, 02:13 PM
Problem, Funk?
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EDIT: Motherfucker.
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Motherfucker!
Hard to say, there's so many bad teams down there right now.
Rooney's goal today was fucking amazing.
The Ginger has nothing on Zizou.
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Well yeah, Zidane vs. Leverkusen is an all time great goal, especially as it was on club football's biggest stage, but Rooney's was still pretty damn impressive.
The Ginger has nothing on Zizou.
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Zizou is the fuckin man! Anyone pales in comparison...
FunkYou
02-13-2011, 02:35 PM
Zizou is the fuckin man! Anyone pales in comparison...
Maybe he is top 10, if you are feeling generous, of all time but probaly not so in fact a few people don't pale that badly.
Thaispider
02-13-2011, 02:38 PM
rooney's goal was fucking awesome. almsot as good as trevor sinclairs overhead kick for QPR back in the day
Maybe he is top 10, if you are feeling generous, of all time but probaly not so in fact a few people don't pale that badly.
Who would you have ahead of him?
FunkYou
02-13-2011, 02:40 PM
rooney's goal was fucking awesome. almsot as good as trevor sinclairs overhead kick for QPR back in the day
This guy knows quality when he sees it.
Maybe he is top 10, if you are feeling generous, of all time but probaly not so in fact a few people don't pale that badly.
Top 10 if generous? Kindly list 10 better players. And no dinosaurs please, football as evolved a lot in the last 20 years.
The man has won the WC, the EC and the CL as well numerous league titles. He also scored in a WC final and scored the posted monster goal in a CL final. Zidane dominated two WC:s and raped Brazil twice in both of those. 3 time FIFA player of the year.
FunkYou
02-13-2011, 02:45 PM
Who would you have ahead of him?
Maradonna
Beckenbauer
Cruyff
Pele
Di Stefano
Baggio
Puskas
Eusabio
Best
Platini
Van Basten
That is in no particular order and there may be others but them definitely.
Top 10 if generous? Kindly list 10 better players. And no dinosaurs please, football as evolved a lot in the last 20 years.
The man has won the WC, the EC and the CL as well numerous league titles. He also scored in a WC final and scored the posted monster goal in a CL final. Zidane dominated two WC:s and raped Brazil twice in both of those. 3 time FIFA player of the year.
Igf it is of all time then you have to go for players from ALL TIME, not just the latest champions league highlight show.
Thaispider
02-13-2011, 02:46 PM
this could do with another thread top GOAT football players, make it someone.
That is in no particular order and there may be others but them definitely.
Maradonna-Agreed
Beckenbauer- Nah, Zizou was more dominant.
Cruyff-No way less merited and lesser player.
Pele - Dinosaur but still awesome. Can see an argument for him.
Di Stefano-Dinosaur. Wouldn't be nearly as dominant today.
Baggio- LOL are you kidding?
Puskas-Dinosaur. See Di Stefano.
Eusabio- Awesome player but Zidane was better.
Best- Again awesome but no. Went past his prime when he was 28 or sth.
Platini- Poor man's Zidane
Van Basten - Love him but no way. Not as merited internationally. Retired early as well.
Damn, Q_F can be pretty harsh when defending Zidane.
In terms of your list, Funk, I think after you've listed Maradona, Pele and Cruyff then you really need to start thinking about Zidane before you write another name.
FunkYou
02-13-2011, 02:57 PM
I will go so far as to say that there has been no one as good Zidane since him. Messi and Ronaldo are pushing that way but until they win more over their career they aren't there yet.
And for the record i disagree with all your counters as it makes massive statements based on guesswork. How do you know those older players wouldn't have had the success if they were in todays game. SUrely if they had their skills and were placed in the modern game which is much more prtoective of flair players expecially they could have been just as good oif not better?
The end of the day it is an opinion. I have no problem with you disagreeing but don't act like "Are you kidding" is a decent counter argument.
I got Zizou somewhere around #3 on my GOAT list. Pele and Maradona being top two.
FunkYou
02-13-2011, 03:01 PM
If Ireallyt wanted to troll Q_F I would talk about how Zidane wasn't even the best player in his club most of the time.
Luckily I am above that.
I think the talk about how football has progressed is exaggerated.
You also need to factor in that were players like Pele and Eusebio around today, they'd have access to all the modern training methods and technology that the current players do.
FunkYou
02-13-2011, 03:03 PM
I think the talk about how football has progressed is exaggerated.
You also need to factor in that were players like Pele and Eusebio around today, they'd have access to all the modern training methods and technology that the current players do.
Pretty much what I said earlier. If anything the progression of the game would make it easier for players like Cruyff to prison rape defences.
I will go so far as to say that there has been no one as good Zidane since him. Messi and Ronaldo are pushing that way but until they win more over their career they aren't there yet.
Agreed, they will be on lists when they retire.
And for the record i disagree with all your counters as it makes massive statements based on guesswork. How do you know those older players wouldn't have had the success if they were in todays game. SUrely if they had their skills and were placed in the modern game which is much more prtoective of flair players expecially they could have been just as good oif not better?
Good point, but i just feel that when i watch Di Stefano's and Puskas' HL's i don't see anything special. That doesn't apply for someone like Pele or Cruyff, they look totally awesome.
The end of the day it is an opinion. I have no problem with you disagreeing but don't act like "Are you kidding" is a decent counter argument.
Sure, it's weak sauce argument. :) I just feel that you rate Baggio a bit too high.
In the end, it's very subjective. I believe that it's generational issue. Dudes your age love Baggio and Zidane is the best player for those my age. Sorry if i was too harsh, but i got mad love for Zidane.:cheesy:
Jebus Christ! That goal just gave me scary goose bumps.
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If Ireallyt wanted to troll Q_F I would talk about how Zidane wasn't even the best player in his club most of the time.
Luckily I am above that.
Oh, i wouldn't dispute that. Del Piero was better during his season and Figo might have been better in Zidane's first season in Real.
FunkYou
02-13-2011, 03:15 PM
Sure, it's weak sacue argument. :) I just feel that you rate Baggio a bit too high.
In the end, it's very subjective. I believe that it's generational issue. Dudes your age love Baggio and Zidane is the best player for those my age. Sorry if i was too harsh, but i got mad love for Zidane.:cheesy:
Yeah you are right I over ate Baggio. Actually I don't the guy was fucking awesome. If it wasn't for the penalty miss against Brazil there wouldn't even be a debate.
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Thaispider
02-13-2011, 03:15 PM
bitches check out my thread , we are going to create the greatest squad EVA!!!!!
FunkYou
02-13-2011, 03:17 PM
bitches check out my thread , we are going to create the greatest squad EVA!!!!!
I think you will find that Harry Redknapp has already done that this season. By greatest you mean most over paid right?
Thaispider
02-13-2011, 03:18 PM
I think you will find that Harry Redknapp has already done that this season. By greatest you mean most over paid right?
greatest is anyhting with assou ekotto in right?
FunkYou
02-13-2011, 03:21 PM
As one the biggest haters of that ridiculously haired, mistake monkey I have to say he has been consistently one of our best players this year.
You maybe right. But i actually rate Del Piero a bit higher. If you look at their stats you can see that they're pretty close
Baggio
637/292
56/27 for Italy (why so few caps?)
Del Piero
680//281
91/27
Ok, i yield. Baggio was appearently better. I hated it when he missed that penalty, rooted so hard for Italy. Wasn't Baggio better during the 90 WC? I'm too young too remember, but i've heard a lot about his awesomeness in that WC.
FunkYou
02-13-2011, 03:34 PM
That penalty miss really hurt his legacy which is a pity because that italian side were rubbish and he dragged them by the hair into the final.
Baggio got criminally few caps through a combination of badly timed injuries, and making enemies of the management.
He was mostly a sub in 1990. Did contribute this little beauty though.
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Nice goal. Strange thing about the few caps. Baggio must be the best player with so few caps for Italy...
Baggio was a great player. I think Funk said it best (weird, I know) in another thread, in that he raised the play of others around him.
Stil, he couldn't deal with Paul McGrath :D.
FunkYou
02-13-2011, 03:39 PM
Blame Marcello Lippi
Stil, he couldn't deal with Paul McGrath :D.
Who could my man, who could?
FunkYou
02-14-2011, 07:57 AM
So Ronaldo has retired from football at long last. Never a massive fan and his love of pies held him back but his HL reel mtches up well with most.
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He was such a beastly striker. Fast, strong and awesome with his dribbling. A top 3 striker IMO...
Thaispider
02-14-2011, 09:09 AM
my favourite player of all time, i still say in his prime at barca he was the best the world has ever seen.
shame about the knee injuries over the years, imagine him if he had stayed healthy. would have been the GOAT imo.
thanks for the memories a truly unique striker.
FunkYou
02-14-2011, 09:31 AM
The knees falling apart didn't help but he was so lazy that he never gave himself a chance to recovere fully. That is what held him back. The same goes for Ronaldinho. Laziness on the verge of greatness.
Ronaldinho had about three seasons worth of effort in his entire career and in those seasons he was almost peerless. Such a shame he didn't care more.
Thaispider
02-14-2011, 09:54 AM
Ronaldinho had about three seasons worth of effort in his entire career and in those seasons he was almost peerless. Such a shame he didn't care more.
well said
FunkYou
02-15-2011, 04:43 PM
Spurs continue their unstoppable run towards the Champions League trophy tonight.
A bit lucky though:smoke: But you have to have luck in the CL though...
e-thug
02-15-2011, 05:00 PM
Spurs continue their unstoppable run towards the Champions League trophy tonight.
Great performance, Id also like to add that Gattusso is a big pile of shit.
FunkYou
02-15-2011, 05:02 PM
A bit lucky though:smoke: But you have to have luck in the CL though...
Milan were the lucky ones, lucky to still have 10 men on the field at the end.
Great performance, Id also like to add that Gattusso is a big pile of shit.
This guy knows what is up.
Headbutting Joe Jordan after the final whistle shows what a big man he is.
He's medically insane IMO, should have gotten a red card like three times. And i say this as a Milan fan... :(
FunkYou
02-15-2011, 05:04 PM
Just a complete and total twat. Flamini is lucky as well.
Edit oh shit just saw the headbutt.
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e-thug
02-15-2011, 05:11 PM
Milan were lucky not to have both Flamini and Gatusso sent off, so Milan were lucky it was only 1-0.
Yeah, but they totally dominated the second half. Gomez was keeping the Spurs in the game. Don't know why Allegri chose to play Seedorf, who is totally shot, instead of Pato.:crazy:
Anyway, congrats Funkman. Gattuso's action(s) left a bad taste in my mouth, it's ok to lose but what he did was just disgraceful...
Thaispider
02-15-2011, 05:13 PM
gattuso headbutted somboday, damn how did it come about?
He had already pushed him during the match and then went full throttle crazy afterwards...
FunkYou
02-15-2011, 05:20 PM
Yeah, but they totally dominated the second half. Gomez was keeping the Spurs in the game. Don't know why Allegri chose to play Seedorf, who is totally shot, instead of Pato.:crazy:
Anyway, congrats Funkman. Gattuso's action(s) left a bad taste in my mouth, it's ok to lose but what he did was just disgraceful...
Do you think they would have dominated the half with only nine men?
Gomez had a fantastic game though.
I can't believe you are a gunner and a milan fan. Are you sponsored by Emirates as well?
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gattuso headbutted somboday, damn how did it come about?
He was looking to be sent off all game. He shoved Joe Jordan during the second half and then at the final whistle he shook redknapp's hand and headbutted Joe Jordan.
Do you think they would have dominated the half with only nine men?
Gomez had a fantastic game though.
Nah, just saying they could have won as the ref didn't send anyone out. I've seen players not get sent off for what Flamini did, but i've never seen anyone get away with what Gattuso did tonight. He was all over the place.
I can't believe you are a gunner and a milan fan. Are you sponsored by Emirates as well?
Lol good one. I'm born in Yugoslavia you know, and Savicevic and Boban were the shit back when i grew up. So i'm a Milan fan by default and a Gunner by way of Bergkamp :)
FunkYou
02-15-2011, 05:28 PM
The late eighties - damn the Italian league was full of legendary players.
Yeah, it was a golden age. Well, it continued during the early 90's...
plazzman
02-15-2011, 08:48 PM
So Ronaldo has retired from football at long last. Never a massive fan and his love of pies held him back but his HL reel mtches up well with most.
Personally, he's my favourite player ever, and if I had to choose, Id put him at #1 GOAT (personal bias), but realistically, I'd probably put him at #3 or #4 GOAT near the obvious Pele and Maradona (if I had my way Zidane would be ahead of Maradona)
So i'm a Milan fan by default and a Gunner by way of Bergkamp :)
This man has fine taste
Pearce
02-16-2011, 12:07 PM
I'd probably put him at #3 or #4 GOAT near the obvious Pele and Maradona (if I had my way Zidane would be ahead of Maradona)
Zidane is way ahead of Maradona, in my opinion. Contributed more, over the entire field.
Zidane is way ahead of Maradona, in my opinion. Contributed more, over the entire field.
This man knows what's up!
You crazy. There's an argument for Zidane being beside both Maradona and Pele, way ahead of Maradona is crazy IMO.
You crazy. There's an argument for Zidane being beside both Maradona and Pele, way ahead of Maradona is crazy IMO.
I know, i was
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Arsenal totally outplayed Barca in the 2nd, such a deserved victory! Wilshere is a tremendous player for his age, the England national team will have a world class midfielder for years...
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Pearce
02-16-2011, 04:44 PM
You crazy. There's an argument for Zidane being beside both Maradona and Pele, way ahead of Maradona is crazy IMO.
Probably am, yeah.
My love for Zidane does make me a little biased :).
Where is the love for Arsenal, they just beat the best side in Europe. Bunch of Spursfags...:prrr:
MilesHackett
02-16-2011, 07:01 PM
Where is the love for Arsenal, they just beat the best side in Europe. Bunch of Spursfags...:prrr:
They didn't beat Manchester United? :ear:
Nah, Wolverhampton took care of that :ear:
Watching Barca lose a match withing 5 minutes was fantastic. And to top it off two players I really like scored great goals. Arshavin is seriously a great fucking player, and the goal was nice. But RVP Holy Fuck was that goal awesome or what. I might be bit biased but RVP's goal > Rooney's goal.
e-thug
02-16-2011, 07:37 PM
Just got back from my brothers where I was watching the game, talk about a tale of 2 halfs, Arsenal were completely outmatched in the first half but did a brilliant job securing a victory late on.
Barcelona are fuckin unreal though, there were several times in the game where Arsenal didn't touch the ball for like 5 minutes....I still fancy Barcelona (in general) and to make it through to the next stage.
Well, they got the away goal which counts a whole lot in CL. But Arsenal were creating chances in both halfs and Barca got Pique suspended. With Puyol injured, i don't see which central defenders they will play. So i say that Arsenal have a nice chance of progressing.
vexred
02-16-2011, 09:39 PM
there was a crazy stat, I think it was for the first half. Arsenal passed the ball 204 times with a pass completion of 75% or something around that. Barcelona passed the ball 412 times with pass completion at 85%.
Watching Barca lose a match withing 5 minutes was fantastic. And to top it off two players I really like scored great goals. Arshavin is seriously a great fucking player, and the goal was nice. But RVP Holy Fuck was that goal awesome or what. I might be bit biased but RVP's goal > Rooney's goal.
You're definitely biased.
Also, there's no way he meant to do that IMO. Barca also had a perfectly good goal ruled out. Arsenal's second goal was good, nice play from Nasri although even then Valdes should have done better.
there was a crazy stat, I think it was for the first half. Arsenal passed the ball 204 times with a pass completion of 75% or something around that. Barcelona passed the ball 412 times with pass completion at 85%.
That's because 90% of their passes are like 2 m sideways. Tiki-taka = zzzzzz
Barca also had a perfectly good goal ruled out.
Nah, Messi was offside there.
He wasn't, he was behind (or at worst, level with) the ball when it was played, which means he was on.
Not from what i can remember. I'm so glad Messi got to eat up his words, his pre-match comments were totallt arrogant.
PL are doing awfully good in the CL this year btw, there's a fair chance that all four advance IMO...
He was definitely at least level, watch the replay.
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Fair play to Arsenal, it was a great result. People (well, the press) seem to think you can't acknowledge that without ignoring everything good that Barcelona did in the game.
Oh, Barca should have had a penalty as well lol.
Ah whatever
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Arsenal were such underdogs and actually created more chances than Barca did. Also, they only way to beat Barca has been deep line defense and counter attack (Inter), but Arsenal beat them via attacking football...
Arsenal were such underdogs and actually created more chances than Barca did.
Hmm, I'm not sure if I agree with this either. In terms of real chances it was probably pretty even.
It was still a really good performance from Arsenal, but let's not pretend that they didn't seriously ride their luck at times.
FunkYou
02-17-2011, 03:53 AM
Barca didn't out play Arsenal, they just kept hold of the ball for long stretches. The didn't really create chance after chance.
I would compare it to lay n pray wrestlers supposedly completely dominating opponents.
The commentators really fucking annoyed me going on about how great Barca were despite rarely seeming to venture into the final third.
Hmm, I'm not sure if I agree with this either. In terms of real chances it was probably pretty even.
Well, they won the shot stats and i remember Van Persie having like five good chances. Not saying that Barca didn't create much, cause they did, but Arsenal created more esp in the 2nd.
Barca didn't out play Arsenal, they just kept hold of the ball for long stretches. The didn't really create chance after chance.
I would compare it to lay n pray wrestlers supposedly completely dominating opponents.
The commentators really fucking annoyed me going on about how great Barca were despite rarely seeming to venture into the final third.
Yeah exactly! What's so impressive with having a zillion passes from the defensive mid to the centrebacks, back and forth? Arsenal didn't have nearly as much possession but at least they tried to advance in the pitch every time they got the ball.
Arsenal had more half chances and sights of goal but in terms of clear cut, should score chances you have to give the edge to Barca. Messi had those two one on ones where he should have scored (and usually would have), Arsenal didn't really create many, if any, that compared to them.
FunkYou
02-17-2011, 04:05 AM
Yeah exactly! What's so impressive with having a zillion passes from the defensive mid to the centrebacks, back and forth? Arsenal didn't have nearly as much possession but at least they tried to advance in the pitch every time they got the ball.
How wierd is t that Arsenal were the team looking to be direct and attacking an not just trying to walk the bal into the goal.
It was like watching Spurs. :cheers:
Arsenal had more half chances and sights of goal but in terms of clear cut, should score chances you have to give the edge to Barca. Messi had those two one on ones where he should have scored (and usually would have), Arsenal didn't really create many, if any, that compared to them.
Ok, fair enough. I just thought that the aggregate half chances and some better ones Arsenla had showed that they were the dominant side in terms of attack.
How wierd is t that Arsenal were the team looking to be direct and attacking an not just trying to walk the bal into the goal.
It was like watching Spurs. :cheers:
Lol yeah. They often piss me off with that "walk the ball in"-shite.
FunkYou
02-17-2011, 08:57 AM
I am pretty much kicking ass in this competition with a massive 24 points!
e-thug
02-17-2011, 10:40 PM
Watching Barca lose a match withing 5 minutes was fantastic. And to top it off two players I really like scored great goals. Arshavin is seriously a great fucking player, and the goal was nice. But RVP Holy Fuck was that goal awesome or what. I might be bit biased but RVP's goal > Rooney's goal.
You're delusional, RVP hit the ball well but that is about the only good thing I can say about it...as a former goalie that was some shitty positioning for a goalie and I'd have been upset in letting that goal in.
That's because 90% of their passes are like 2 m sideways. Tiki-taka = zzzzzz
I think its remarkable how well they move the ball around, every single one of there players are so comfortable on the ball its insane.
Also hate to remind ya what happened last time your lot went to the Camp Nou:
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Well, a lot of people like Barca's game but just find it boring. You're an evil man for posting that shit, but consider that Barca will not have Pique on Nou Camp and probably not Puyol either.
You brought this on yourself:
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e-thug
02-18-2011, 01:13 PM
Lol Carling Cup tie?! I dont know if you want to go to war with Arsenal/Liverpool ties.
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Pearce
02-18-2011, 03:54 PM
Lol Carling Cup tie?! I dont know if you want to go to war with Arsenal/Liverpool ties.
Haha I hate BOTH of your teams - so a double knockout here would be perfect :cool:.
Haha I hate BOTH of your teams - so a double knockout here would be perfect :cool:.
You hate us more than Chelsea and Scum U?:willy:
You hate us more than Chelsea and Scum U?:willy:
He's a Spurs fan remember.
Even as a Villa fan I can see his point, as most Arsenal fans over here are unbearable.
I'm pretty balanced as an Arsnl fan. The squad is way to young still, so i doubt there will any titles, save some cup. Man U fans are the wrost IMO, and we have a ton of them here...
e-thug
02-18-2011, 04:08 PM
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Oh and Im gonna take a dig at ya boys AC Milan aswell!
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I'm pretty balanced as an Arsnl fan.
That you are, you're easily the most rational Arsenal fan I've come across.
The squad is way to young still, so i doubt there will any titles, save some cup.
It's not even them overrating the team (although the Wilshere love is way over the top lately) as everybody does that, it's the attitude to other teams tackling them that annoys me the most. You'd think Arsenal had never had tough tacklers in the centre of the park (or that Wilshere doesn't like the odd two footed lunge these days) with they way they talk about these supposed assaults they've been victim to.
Man U fans are the wrost IMO, and we have a ton of them here...
We can agree on that lol. And there are a ton of them everywhere, it's one of the reasons they're so annoying.
It's not even them overrating the team (although the Wilshere love is way over the top lately) as everybody does that, it's the attitude to other teams tackling them that annoys me the most. You'd think Arsenal had never had tough tacklers in the centre of the park (or that Wilshere doesn't like the odd two footed lunge these days) with they way they talk about these supposed assaults they've been victim to.
Yeah, i find that annoying as well. Vieira was sending dudes to the hospital every other week and they weren't complaining then. Bergkamp was pretty dirty, Song can be nasty at times. I actually like the physical aspect of the game in the PL, not like in Spain and Italy where players can be so faggy.
Fuck you for posting that 05 finale e-thug. :(:(
Here you go, you cunt:
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e-thug
02-18-2011, 05:01 PM
05 Final >>> 07 Final!
That 05' final was so stressful.
Oh and I find Chelsea fans the most annoying...bunch of glory hunting bandwaggon fucks....I dont remember Chelsea having this many fans 10-15 years ago!!!
05 Final >>> 07 Final!
That 05' final was so stressful.
The 05 final is the football equivalent of UFC 92.
Oh and I find Chelsea fans the most annoying...bunch of glory hunting bandwaggon fucks....I dont remember Chelsea having this many fans 10-15 years ago!!!
I actually liked Chelsea's team back when they were a normal side. Hasselbain, Gudjohnsen and Gallas were likeable players.
Oh and I find Chelsea fans the most annoying...bunch of glory hunting bandwaggon fucks....I dont remember Chelsea having this many fans 10-15 years ago!!!
While that is true, it's kind of true of any team really. The better you're doing the more fans turn up, it just makes it shit for the real fans who were always there as they get lumped in with the glory hunters.
Stamford Bridge was one of the shittest grounds I've ever been to in terms of home support though.
FunkYou
02-18-2011, 05:30 PM
You are all wrong. West Ham fans are the most annoying but I guess you have to have lived in the right areas of London to really appreciate how annoying it is for fans of a team who have won fuck all to claim in all seriousness to have won the world cup.
e-thug
02-18-2011, 06:06 PM
The 05 final is the football equivalent of UFC 92.
I actually liked Chelsea's team back when they were a normal side. Hasselbain, Gudjohnsen and Gallas were likeable players.
Very mature of you as a Milan fan to admit that 05' was probably the greatest Champion league Final match in history.:cheers:
And yeah, Chelsea's 00-01 team was real nice to watch.
While that is true, it's kind of true of any team really. The better you're doing the more fans turn up, it just makes it shit for the real fans who were always there as they get lumped in with the glory hunters.
Stamford Bridge was one of the shittest grounds I've ever been to in terms of home support though.
Yeah you're right, just pisses me off.
Stamford Bridge was one of the shittest grounds I've ever been to in terms of home support though.
Why don't they build a better arena? It's not like they're poor lol.
It's actually quite a nice ground (although only 40,000 seats I think) it's just their fans were really quiet. No atmosphere.
e-thug
02-18-2011, 06:42 PM
Why don't they build a better arena? It's not like they're poor lol.
He meant there supporters are shit not the stadium....There actual ground back in the day use to be piss poor aswell.
FunkYou
02-18-2011, 06:43 PM
There also isn't a great deal more room. They only enlarged it a few years ago (probably about 15 now I think about it)
He meant there supporters are shit not the stadium....There actual ground back in the day use to be piss poor aswell.
Ah, read it lazily. I think it's too small for a club of their stature. If they can't expand, just a build a new. Roman can do it, it's peanut money for him.
Pearce
02-19-2011, 10:33 AM
I think another problem is that theres limited space in an around the Chelsea area. As far as land values go, its right up there.
Of course if anyone could afford land around there its Roman - so who knows.
Leyton Orient > Barca
FUCK YEAH!
Leyton Orient > Barca
FUCK YEAH!
lol, and the winner of the replay plays Man U.
If Arsenal eliminate both Barca and Man U, i will
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Fucking Arsenal. Can't you bastards ever do me a favour?
Pearce
02-27-2011, 01:01 PM
Fucking Arsenal. Can't you bastards ever do me a favour?
You got a bet on todays game mate?
Nope, it just means I have to put up with seeing Blues shirts all over the place all of a sudden and their scummy fans acting like they actually support their team now that they've won something, conveniently forgetting the fact that they only drew 6,000 fans at home to Gillingham earlier in this cup, 500 of which were away fans.
Basically...
http://mommylife.net/archives/2009/07/07/toddler%20tantrum.jpg
Oh well, I'll just have to go back to considering the Carling Cup as totally worthless. I had to change that opinion for a brief time last year obviously, with Villa getting to the final and all ;).
Pearce
02-27-2011, 01:16 PM
Haha oh shit - I somehow forgot you were a Villa fan for a moment there. Well, as a Yiddo you'll appreciate why i'm a Blues fan today ;).
Thaispider
02-27-2011, 01:21 PM
well done the brum, love seeing arsenal lose
plazzman
02-27-2011, 04:30 PM
E-Thug should throw himself off a bridge for being a Liverpool fan. :p
All I can say is wow....
LMAO, so much for King Kenny.
Pearce
02-27-2011, 04:40 PM
E-Thug should throw himself off a bridge for being a Liverpool fan. :p
All I can say is wow....
Yeah they looked clueless at times - I bloody love it.
plazzman
02-27-2011, 04:42 PM
Although I must say, my distaste doesn't extend to Kuyt. God bless Kuyt
Thaispider
02-28-2011, 06:26 AM
king kenny, yaaaaaaaaaaaaa riiight!! seeing he rest of the top four flounder as a utd fan is awesome
MilesHackett
02-28-2011, 05:22 PM
Just saw highlights from the United/Wigan tilt.. really nice interplay between Rooney and Chicharito. Love Hernandez, he's such a good finisher.. really unnecessary and stupid elbow by Rooney on McCarthy though.
e-thug
02-28-2011, 05:38 PM
E-Thug should throw himself off a bridge for being a Liverpool fan. :p
All I can say is wow....
http://shechive.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/bridge-jumping-1.jpg?w=500&h=336
Parker was outstanding and just showed how fuckin shit Lucas is, I just cant stand him.
Joe Cole = big waste aswell, poor performance all around but both those players piss me right off.
Oh and how the hell is Rooney escaping suspension for that blatant elbow? Fuck the FA and there bias towards top teams.
It's Chelsea/Man U this week, the FA (and Sky) aren't going to let Rooney miss that.
Oh, and Joe Cole just looks fat to me.
e-thug
02-28-2011, 05:44 PM
It's Chelsea/Man U this week, the FA (and Sky) aren't going to let Rooney miss that.
Oh, and Joe Cole just looks fat to me.
It's just bogus, certainly one of the many reasons Football is not my #1 sport anymore.
It's tough as a Liverpool fan to see how bad are squad is looking in comparison to the top 5 but really with are squad I cant realistically expect Liverpool to finish higher than 6th.
Pearce
03-01-2011, 07:15 AM
Joe Cole = big waste aswell, poor performance all around but both those players piss me right off.
And to think I was bummed about missing out on signing Joe Cole. We ended up getting VdV instead lol.
FunkYou
03-01-2011, 09:58 AM
And to think I was bummed about missing out on signing Joe Cole. We ended up getting VdV instead lol.
Thems the breaks I guess. :party6::smoke:
e-thug
03-01-2011, 11:20 AM
And to think I was bummed about missing out on signing Joe Cole. We ended up getting VdV instead lol.
Thems the breaks I guess. :party6::smoke:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_kbi0NGanzUM/TB8Nb4LjU6I/AAAAAAAAALM/yHJgtBcul9Q/s1600/fuck-you-guys.jpg
VdV is probably pound for pound (pun intended) the best signing all season.
Pearce
03-01-2011, 11:21 AM
When he's fit, he is.
FunkYou
03-01-2011, 11:33 AM
Yeah his fitness is a real concern. I want him and Modric playing together not doing 45 minute cameos each half.
Pearce
03-01-2011, 11:56 AM
And i'm still of the opinion that we need a top-quality striker. Or at least play Pav a bit more, poor bastard is being shafted at Spurs :(.
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So glad Utd lost! 1 p soon baby! Luiz is a class signing for Chelsea btw...
MilesHackett
03-01-2011, 05:21 PM
Sucks that we lost, still top of the table though.
FunkYou
03-01-2011, 07:00 PM
I'm torn. Utd lost which is as close to being the definition of a good thing as it is posible to get.
On the other hand Chelsea won. Which is a bad thing. Real Bad.
e-thug
03-01-2011, 09:26 PM
I'm torn. Utd lost which is as close to being the definition of a good thing as it is posible to get.
On the other hand Chelsea won. Which is a bad thing. Real Bad.
I sorted the predicament out b4 watching the game so I could really hate on one team, and it was always gonna be United, nice to see Karma was a bitch to Rooney....glad Chelsea won, opens the title race up again and puts a ton of pressure on United coming to Anfield on Sunday.
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It's unreal how much Arsenal missed and fucking incompetent the ref was... :(
e-thug
03-06-2011, 12:24 PM
The Mighty Durk Kuyt!!!!!
http://sportige.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/dirk_kuyt_wideweb__470x3650.jpg
Fuckin have it Manure wankers!
At World Cup Suarez was a fuking cheater, but what he did with Utd's efense today was awesome.
Haha I thought you'd beat them today, what with Smalling and Brown being the centre half pairing. I didn't think you'd do it do easily.
Suarez looks a very, very good player.
FunkYou
03-06-2011, 01:07 PM
Tottenham fucking depress me.
How shit is Wolves' pitch?
FunkYou
03-06-2011, 01:11 PM
Unacceptable in the modern game IMO for a Premiership ground to be more bog than pitch. So many passes we made left the foot with plenty of pace and then a yard later were rolling to a halt.
But still, we were shit.
Agreed. If that's not left in that condition deliberately then I'd be very surprised. I've played on a lot better pitches than that in Sunday league games, the pace and bounce of it were that bad.
Still, fair result all things considered.
FunkYou
03-06-2011, 01:18 PM
Wolves winning ?
No it was 3-3.
Agreed. If that's not left in that condition deliberately then I'd be very surprised. I've played on a lot better pitches than that in Sunday league games, the pace and bounce of it were that bad.
Still, fair result all things considered.
No argument here. Hutton should definitely have been sent off as well.
The Mighty Durk Kuyt!!!!!
http://sportige.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/dirk_kuyt_wideweb__470x3650.jpg
Fuckin have it Manure wankers!
Love me some Kuyt. Although he shouldn't have stolen that goal, loved how Suarez raped four players then. You guys are two quality signings from being contenders again.
Thanks for helping us. Fuck, Arsenal are pretty close to a fucking league title, didn't really believe that before the season.
Love me some Kuyt. Although he shouldn't have stolen that goal
I wouldn't call it stealing the goal TBH. In hindsight it was going in anyway, but at the time the ball was only dribbling towards goal and there were Man U players there who could have cleared it. At the time, the right move for a centre forward is to make sure of things and stick it in before a defender has the chance to clear it. IMO anyway.
I agree. Any striker would have done the same. Pity on such a great goal, it would have been fucking awesome had he not touched it.
Pearce
03-06-2011, 05:00 PM
Hmm after watching the Spurs/Wolves game I have to agree it was probably the fairest result, although I couldn't have complained too much if Wolves had taken all the points. Hutton could and perhaps should have gone off for the foul leading to the penalty, considering he was the last man.
Its sort of difficult to say whether Wolves were hard done by with that goal being disallowed. Gomes fumbled (nothing new), but to his defense he did take a fair old whack from one of the Wolves players.
I think its especially hard for Gomes though, having played in Eredivisie for so long where the rules protect the keepers so much more.
I've only seen it once as I wasn't paying much attention to the game tbh, but it looked as though the Wolves player made contact with Gomes' arm(s) first and went through them to get to the ball. I can see how that's a foul.
Hutton definitely should have gone though. Both Carragher and Rafael should have seen red today as well IMO.
Pearce
03-06-2011, 05:10 PM
Yeah I agree that it was a foul too but the whole thing was handled terribly by Mark Halsey. It confused both teams, the entire crowd and even the commentators lol.
vexred
03-08-2011, 04:54 PM
That was a disgrace, Van Persie should never have been sent off!
Thaispider
03-08-2011, 04:55 PM
arsenal getting spanked=good times.
That ref was a fucking cheating cocksucker. I'm not even gonna bother to argue anyone who dissents, cause they're clearly trolling...
Pssst... Q_F...
http://www.genxs.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/barcelona-fc.jpg
Iniesta is a ridiculously good footballer, his touch and movement for the first and third goals were absolutely beautiful.
Oh, and Arsenal are sore losers.
arsenal getting spanked=good times.
http://images1.memegenerator.net/ImageMacro/4474380/I-hope-you-die-of-AIDs.jpg?imageSize=Medium&generatorName=george-harrison-
It would have been ok had they won on their own and not via the ref.
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Pssst... Q_F...
http://www.genxs.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/barcelona-fc.jpg
This is a nicer symbol IMO:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_8Z5Q7nkW8LU/TFF-5bkiGjI/AAAAAAAAL2s/tN9CGishQ5Q/s1600/swastika.png
Also, anyone who talks about sore losers can fuck off. You have to be blind to miss that the ref was totally biased.
How can you blame the ref for that defeat?
You were completely outclassed in every aspect of the game, had 33% possession, 199 completed passes to Barca's 700 odd, zero shots on goal let alone on target and your sole goal was a fluke own goal from them.
You can't even blame the red because you were getting dominated just as badly in the first half. Not to mention that Van Persie should have got a second yellow at the end of the first for lashing out, Barca should have had a penalty in the first half and Koscielny probably should have got a second yellow for the penalty.
There's no argument, the match wasn't close and the difference between the two sides was simply the fact that Barca are a far superior team lol.
Thaispider
03-08-2011, 05:11 PM
barca are a class above everyone else in europe, only real chance anybody has of beating them is to pressure them and hope barca have an off night.
a joy to watch, just watching some of the highlights. bravo.
As i said, i'm not gonna argue. Even if Arsenal were totally outplayed, the ref fucked them by adding 5 minutes in the first for no reason at all and the red of course. The penalty was very dubious. You are of course gonna deny all of this cause you love Barca.
He should have given them a chance despite the fact that Barca were dominating the game. Don't bother with replies cause this is all i have to say about the subject. So fuckin mad right now...
PS, i really hope something like this happens to Villa so i can gloat. ;)
Barca played well. But the ref might just as well have sticked on a Barcelona T-Shirt on him before the match started.
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Also, Dani Alves is amazing but he's a wee diving cunt sometimes.
As i said, i'm not gonna argue. Even if Arsenal were totally outplayed, the ref fucked them by adding 5 minutes in the first for no reason at all and the red of course. The penalty was very dubious. You are of course gonna deny all of this cause you love Barca.
When you look at what happened in the first half the five minutes was easily justified. Szczesny's injury alone took up a full two minutes then you have the little shoving match just before half time when Wilshere went down. Besides, Barca scored three minutes into the five anyway.
I have no idea how you can call that penalty dubious. I don't even need to debate this point as you even raising it betrays your bias tbh.
And I do love Barca lol, but I think it's clear to any neutrals which one of us is being objective here.
Oh, and I'd LOVE for something like this to happen to Villa.
MilesHackett
03-08-2011, 05:33 PM
Eat a bowl of dick, Arsenal!
http://nationalpostsports.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/messi.jpg?w=620
Oh, and I'd LOVE for something like this to happen to Villa.
No, i didn't mean that they would play CL (dream on bud), but rather get sodomized by the ref.
Also, even though i'm clearly biased here i don't hold a minority opinion. I watched the game with two Barca fans and they totally agreed that the ref was shitty towards Arsenal, no matter how good Barca played. Which they totally did...
You weren't sodomised by the ref though, you were totally outplayed by a much better side.
It's easy to point to the red card and ignore the penalty Barca should have had early on, the second yellow Van Persie could have gotten just before half time and the second yellow Koscielny should have gotten for the penalty.
Eat a bowl of dick, Arsenal!
http://nationalpostsports.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/messi.jpg?w=620
No need. Looks like Busquets already does. Nice OG ;)
MilesHackett
03-08-2011, 05:45 PM
you mad.
http://ilechoo.com/gallery/albums/gifs/van_Persie_miss_Bolton.gif
Thaispider
03-08-2011, 05:46 PM
Oh i think him and QF............MAD
Haters gonna hate...
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Pearce
03-08-2011, 05:57 PM
Iniesta's pastey flesh gives me the horn.
And ps. Arsenal got dominated, no excuses really.
you mad.
http://ilechoo.com/gallery/albums/gifs/van_Persie_miss_Bolton.gif
I don't even support/like Arsenal that much. I just want Barca to go out :troll:
And I'm not saying Barca didn't deserve to go through. They did. They played like it was 11-on-8 or something (12-on-10 for the last 20 mins :troll:), but the ref was a dick there's no doubt about that.
You weren't sodomised by the ref though, you were totally outplayed by a much better side.
It's easy to point to the red card and ignore the penalty Barca should have had early on, the second yellow Van Persie could have gotten just before half time and the second yellow Koscielny should have gotten for the penalty.
I find the penalty dubious, so don't see the red card there. And even the worst Barca nut gobbler will admit that the second yellow on RvP was by far the worst call of the match. I mean it's easy to miss the penalty on Messi (can see the argument for a penalty there), but to book a player who shoots a second after the whistle has been blown? Come on...
Why was i expecting any sympathy from a bunch of Scum U gloryhunters and Spursfags in the first place? Remember when Arsenal beat Barca, none of you even wanted to post and when you did all you did was downplay the victory.
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FunkYou
03-09-2011, 04:26 AM
I only watched the first half and was so bored by Barca's 50 minute knock around warm up while the Arsenal players stood around waiting for the game to start that I gave up and went and played Madden instead.
I only watched the first half and was so bored by Barca's 50 minute knock around warm up while the Arsenal players stood around waiting for the game to start that I gave up and went and played Madden instead.
May I direct you here... (http://www.fightlockdown.com/forum/showpost.php?p=281893&postcount=675)
FunkYou
03-09-2011, 04:35 AM
May I direct you here... (http://www.fightlockdown.com/forum/showpost.php?p=281893&postcount=675)
Don't get me wrong, Aresenal getting schooled for the second year running by their superior clones makes my pants tingle.
I have a feeling the same is going to happen to Spurs tonight however so I am resisting the urge to laud it of over poor little Q_F. Even as he reads from the Wenger Big Book Of Sore Ways Of Losing.
I have a feeling the same is going to happen to Spurs tonight however so I am resisting the urge to laud it of over poor little Q_F.
Milan have no midfielders, so you shoudn't be so worried. They have played great in the league lately much due to van Bommel.
FunkYou
03-09-2011, 05:20 AM
Yeah they have a few players not available tonight thankfully. We are limping through as it is. I will be pleased if Bale, VdV and Modric can get through tonight without further injuries.
Listening to Arsenal fans talk today, you'd think they'd forgotten all about this in the first leg:
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Again, that's a much harder call to make that the idiotic second yellow card on RvP. Those mistakes are not in the same league.
Also, the 5 minutes added were total BS. Sczenzy's substitution was fast, it's not like they carried him off the pitch. What more happened in that half? I mean, how often do you see 5 minutes added in the first half? It's in games where you have fights and horrible injuries. The first half of this game was nothing like that.
The asshole ref gave Arsenal players way too harsh bookings in the first half. Jack, as you are totally gay for Messi, you must have noticed that he deliberately handballed and shot after the whistle was blown, both in the 2nd. That should have warranted a red card, had the ref been non-biased.
I don't why you insist that Barca totally outplayed Arsenal and what the ref did was irrelevant. Barca did indeed outplay Arsenal but the ref fucked over Arsenal as well. There is no contradiction between the two notions. They had 1-1 when he wrongfully sent off a player. If you don't see anything wrong with that, then it's pretty absurd to call me overly biased.
Yeah, i know i broke my promise not to debate it, but Barcaloverboy Jack just wont drop the issue...:mad:
Pearce
03-09-2011, 02:03 PM
Well the point I'm trying to make is that even if we agree (for agruments sake) that the referee was biased as you say - it still doesn't change the fact that Arsenal looked like dogshit compared to Barca last night.
The stats from that game were pretty amazing, and to have lost 3-1 with your only goal being an own-goal compounds the fact that Arsenal got dominated. I don't care what you say about the referee, he wasn't the one that caused your team to get outclassed.
Again, that's a much harder call to make that the idiotic second yellow card on RvP. Those mistakes are not in the same league.
Well by the rules of the game the Van Persie sending off wasn't a mistake. He kicked the ball away after the whistle went which is a yellow, whereas Messi was clearly onside so you're right, they're not in the same league.
Even then, the impact they had on the game, assuming Van Persie shouldn't have been sent off, is absolutely in the same league. If that goal stands, like it should have, then Barca go home with the score 2-2. Let's say the play up to the Van Persie sending off goes exactly the same way and we have a game tied at 3-3 with Arsenal (a team who haven't had a single shot all game and have been attacked relentlessly) needing to score and not concede. That's not even mentioning the penalty Barca should have had.
Also, the 5 minutes added were total BS. Sczenzy's substitution was fast, it's not like they carried him off the pitch. What more happened in that half? I mean, how often do you see 5 minutes added in the first half? It's in games where you have fights and horrible injuries. The first half of this game was nothing like that.
Sczenzy was on the ground for a good minute before the sub was even made. Even then, Barca scored in three minutes so you can't even use the added time as an excuse.
The asshole ref gave Arsenal players way too harsh bookings in the first half.
Examples?
Jack, as you are totally gay for Messi,
I'm not even a huge Messi fan, that's Miles.
you must have noticed that he deliberately handballed and shot after the whistle was blown, both in the 2nd. That should have warranted a red card, had the ref been non-biased.
You mean the ball that hit his shoulder? You calling for a red there just shows how absurdly blind you are being when it comes to this game.
I don't why you insist that Barca totally outplayed Arsenal and what the ref did was irrelevant. Barca did indeed outplay Arsenal, but Arsenal had 1-1 when he wrongfully send off a player. If you don't see something wrong with that, then it's pretty absurd to call me overly biased.
Yes it was 1-1, but Arsenal had also failed to have a shot on goal all game and were struggling to string three passes together. What on earth makes you believe they were capable of holding out for the rest of the game?
Even then, if Barca had the goal they should have had from the first leg, along with the penalty they should have had in this game for the earlier foul on Messi then Barca would have been out of sight.
You can't argue the one big decision that went against you and conveniently ignore the several other ones that went for you. This is why people consider Arsenal fans to be sore losers.
Yeah, i know i broke my promise not to debate it, but Barcaloverboy Jack just wont drop the issue...:mad:
I won't drop the issue because your arguments are ridiculous.
The game wasn't close before the sending off or after it, you failed to have a single shot on goal (not even on target), had around 30% of possession, couldn't string three passes together and also had several refereeing errors go your way. Just accept the loss and quit bitching about the red card.
Well by the rules of the game the Van Persie sending off wasn't a mistake. He kicked the ball away after the whistle went which is a yellow, whereas Messi was clearly onside so you're right, they're not in the same league.
Lol that's just BS. It's much harder to spot if a player is onside than not to card a player for shooting the ball one second after the whistle on a sold out Camp Nou. I concur, they're not in the same league and sophistry wont help you in this case.
Even then, the impact they had on the game, assuming Van Persie shouldn't have been sent off, is absolutely in the same league. If that goal stands, like it should have, then Barca go home with the score 2-2. Let's say the play up to the Van Persie sending off goes exactly the same way and we have a game tied at 3-3 with Arsenal (a team who haven't had a single shot all game and have been attacked relentlessly) needing to score and not concede. That's not even mentioning the penalty Barca should have had.
The ref fucking up an offside situation (again, it happens like every other game) isn't the same as a wrongful sending off, you never fucking see players getting sent off for shooting after the whistle in a loud stadium. Stop spinning.
Sczenzy was on the ground for a good minute before the sub was even made. Even then, Barca scored in three minutes so you can't even use the added time as an excuse.
Nothing else happened in the the half that warranted the 3 extra minutes. Anyway, even if Barca didn't score there, five minutes addes is still wrong.
Examples?
The two first, can't remember the players, they were harsh.
I'm not even a huge Messi fan, that's Miles.
My bad then, you certainly come off as one.
You mean the ball that hit his shoulder? You calling for a red there just shows how absurdly blind you are being when it comes to this game.
It wasn't on the shoulder, even the asshole ref saw it.
Yes it was 1-1, but Arsenal had also failed to have a shot on goal all game and were struggling to string three passes together. What on earth makes you believe they were capable of holding out for the rest of the game?
The very same Arsenal managed to get Bendtner clear with the goalie, with one player sent off. Imagine that...
Even then, if Barca had the goal they should have had from the first leg, along with the penalty they should have had in this game for the earlier foul on Messi then Barca would have been out of sight.
As i said, it's not the same. Refs make bad offside calls every other game, but the sending off is worse. I would trade 1 goal for Barca for RvP not to me sent off. That would have been much closer to fair.
You can't argue the one big decision that went against you and conveniently ignore the several other ones that went for you. This is why people consider Arsenal fans to be sore losers.
What other points? You exhaggarate the length of the injury of the gk and equate the ref errors. What else is there?
I won't drop the issue because your arguments are ridiculous.
The game wasn't close before the sending off or after it, you failed to have a single shot on goal (not even on target), had around 30% of possession, couldn't string three passes together and also had several refereeing errors go your way. Just accept the loss and quit bitching about the red card.
Again, i refer to the Bendtner chance which they created with one man off. Barca deserved to advance but the ref was worse towards Arsenal. Much worse. That fact that you can't admit that makes you ridiculous, not me.
Lol that's just BS. It's much harder to spot if a player is onside than not to card a player for shooting the ball one second after the whistle on a sold out Camp Nou. I concur, they're not in the same league and sophistry wont help you in this case.
The actual rules of the game say Van Persie should have got a second yellow. He kicked the ball away after the whistle. That's it, that's all it comes down to.
You can say it was a harsh call by the referee but it still doesn't change the fact that it was justifiable decision. There's no way to justify the Messi goal being ruled out, it was inarguably a mistake whereas the Van Persie red wasn't inarguably a mistake. You may have seen it as harsh but it's still a completely justifiable decision by the rules of the game.
The ref fucking up an offside situation (again, it happens like every other game) isn't the same as a wrongful sending off, you never fucking see players getting sent off for shooting after the whistle in a loud stadium. Stop spinning.
Fucking up an offside situation or incorrectly ruling out an actual goal? And you accuse me of spinning.
Read the rules before bitching about the red. He kicked the ball away after the game had stopped, that's a yellow card. And as far as the loud stadium argument goes, everybody else on the pitch heard the whistle just fine.
Nothing else happened in the the half that warranted the 3 extra minutes. Anyway, even if Barca didn't score there, five minutes addes is still wrong.
So first you moan about the five and now you're moaning about the three?
Take a look at the Szczesny substitution again, because according the to BBC play by play it was three minutes between the free kick being saved and Szczesny actually being subbed off. That's not even counting everything else in that half, like the two shoving matches just before half time.
18:03 Substitution
Wojciech Szczesny goes off and Manuel Almunia comes on.
15:09
Direct strike on goal from the free kick comes in from da Silva Dani Alves, save by Wojciech Szczesny.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/9416255.stm
The two first, can't remember the players, they were harsh.
You can't remember what happened, or the players involved and yet you know they were harsh? Come on man.
My bad then, you certainly come off as one.
:party6:
It wasn't on the shoulder, even the asshole ref saw it.
Watch it again.
The very same Arsenal managed to get Bendtner clear with the goalie, with one player sent off. Imagine that...
And yet still didn't manage a shot on goal.
As i said, it's not the same. Refs make bad offside calls every other game, but the sending off is worse. I would trade 1 goal for Barca for RvP not to me sent off. That would have been much closer to fair.
Why is the sending off worse? Because it happened to an Arsenal player? You have absolutely no idea what Van Persie would have done had he stayed on, he certainly didn't do anything in the first half. The goal being disallowed not only cost Barca a draw, it also cost them an away goal. That's easily as big as having a man sent off.
What other points? You exhaggarate the length of the injury of the gk and equate the ref errors. What else is there?
See the BBC link from earlier.
Refereeing errors saved you a penalty at the Emirates, a certain goal at the emirates and a penalty at the Nou Camp. Even if Van Persie should have stayed on then you're still three goals down. Does Van Persie's presence really equal three goals in that game?
Again, i refer to the Bendtner chance which they created with one man off. Barca deserved to advance but the ref was worse towards Arsenal. Much worse. That fact that you can't admit that makes you ridiculous, not me.
So you had once chance, a chance from which you still failed to get a shot away. No objective person can honestly look at the penalty shouts and the incorrectly disallowed goal and think Arsenal were fucked over by the ref. It's just stupid.
e-thug
03-09-2011, 03:16 PM
I will add one thing about the additional minutes in the first half...Wilshere was down for a good amount of time and the little pushing match that ensued certainly could've warranted the 5 minutes.
Van Persie is a fuckin idiot, while it was a real harsh thing for the ref to do I dont buy it one bit that VP didn't here the whistle....I have no sympathy for him esp when you consider what a stupid yellow card he took in the first.
I agree the ref may have been a bit harsh with the cards overall but ultimately I don't think it ever mattered, Barcelona coulda won that game more than 3-1 if they took there chances...I'm not trying to bang on ya hear Q_F cuz as much of a hard time I've giving you about Arsenal in here I actually really like there brand of football....Barcelona are just a bad matchup style wise.
Van Persie is a fuckin idiot, while it was a real harsh thing for the ref to do I dont buy it one bit that VP didn't here the whistle....I have no sympathy for him esp when you consider what a stupid yellow card he took in the first.
I agree, if he didn't hear the whistle and actually thought the game was still going then why on earth would he shoot from where he was and not take it onto his left or even another touch on his right?
Not to mention his first yellow could have easily been a red had the ref had a better view of it.
FunkYou
03-09-2011, 03:35 PM
Spurs being given the run around tonight.
Don't want to continue a multyquotewar and i said pretty much i wanted to say.
Milan are looking good, there's a nice chance to fix the result in the 2nd.
Milan are indeed looking good, although I quite fancy Spurs to nick it for some reason. Hopefully not though ;).
e-thug
03-09-2011, 03:56 PM
Milan are indeed looking good, although I quite fancy Spurs to nick it for some reason. Hopefully not though ;).
Lol you really aren't patriotic at all are ya?!
95% of the time I'll cheer for the English team, especially if it's against one of the Italian sides.
lol, I almost always cheer against the English sides in Europe, although it depends on who they're playing.
I actually don't mind Spurs, although they have a few players I dislike. It's more my dislike of Harry Redknapp than anything.
FunkYou
03-09-2011, 03:59 PM
Why? I could kind of understand that when the sides were made up of English players but now I just don't get it. Why would I support a side I want to lose every other day just because they are playing a side that is part of a different league.
e-thug
03-09-2011, 04:18 PM
Why? I could kind of understand that when the sides were made up of English players but now I just don't get it. Why would I support a side I want to lose every other day just because they are playing a side that is part of a different league.
I hear ya about how the league is just over polluted with foreign players and believe me I'm huge on the idea that teams should be forced to play home grown talent.
It's the brand of football we play in England it's still English to me and I like to see our style succeed....besides English players rarely play in the other league's.
FunkYou
03-09-2011, 04:38 PM
Great 0-0 result! St Totteringham's day won't have quite the same sting this year.
Congrats Spurs dudes. Milan played pretty well but didn't create enough chances IMO. Pato is a selfish little cunt, don't try to dribble 5 men you smurf...
FunkYou
03-09-2011, 04:42 PM
Hopefully we can avoid Barca as it would be two more legs like tonight except with us conceding more.
Pearce
03-09-2011, 04:49 PM
I thought we were pretty good defensively tonight, apart from Gomes and Corluka's distribution which was terrible at times. Going forward we were too reliant on long balls to Crouch - I would have liked to have seen him subbed much earlier actually because the ref was having none of his aerial challenges against Silva.
I thought Sandro was fucking mint tonight, he was so calm on the ball and won loads of tackles. Its the best I've seen him play in a Spurs shirt. And was it just me or did Bale look quite timid tonight? I know he's coming off an injury but his first touch was unusually bad, by his standards.
All in all, i'm happy though because considering how well Milan played, we were still able to keep a clean sheet - something we don't manage to do very often lol.
FunkYou
03-09-2011, 04:52 PM
Corluka 's passing was dogshit tonight but he did make some crucial tackles so it almost balances out.
Sandro was a rock tonight and I haven't been imoressed by him before.
Felt sorry for Bale. when he came on he kept screaming for the ball and trying to start runs and Jenas mainly was just passing it sideways.
e-thug
03-09-2011, 04:55 PM
Sooo for the sake of Q_F's life Shogun better win this month....
Great result for Tottenham, although avoiding Barcelona in the rd of 8 would be great it's not like any of the teams advancing will be fun to play.
Pearce
03-09-2011, 04:56 PM
Corluka 's passing was dogshit tonight but he did make some crucial tackles so it almost balances out.
Sandro was a rock tonight and I haven't been imoressed by him before.
Felt sorry for Bale. when he came on he kept screaming for the ball and trying to start runs and Jenas mainly was just passing it sideways.
Fucking Jenas, I really don't rate him at all. I've had many arguments with fellow Spurs fans about him, he lacks so much vision its unreal and relies on too many passes back to the defense to boost his pass % :laugh:. Plus he drops too deep, too often. Especially when you consider he was playing alongside Sandro tonight - there was no need for him to run back to Gallas to get the ball like he did on several occasions.
FunkYou
03-09-2011, 05:02 PM
When Jenas is on song he can run the Spurs midfield but all too oten he does naff all except pass it sideways or backwards as you said.
Sooo for the sake of Q_F's life Shogun better win this month....
Lol thanks. Both are still fighting for their respective league titles and they don't really have the squad for both, so it's for the best in a way.
I don't have any similiar rationale for Shogun so he better win. :boxing2:
Dawson, Gallas, Gomes and Lennon were freakin' great tonight. Pienaar and VDV played well also. The cross from VDV to Crouch from almost half way line was a thang of beauty.
FunkYou
03-10-2011, 05:09 AM
Spurs clould be amazing if we could get our strikers to score with any kind of regularity. That is the main reason we need to make it into the top 4 again this year to ensure we can sign a decent striker.
Is this thread only to discuss PL ?
Anyways:
x4SPkGT4tsY
21 years old. Dude is great.
Ive said it many times, Hernandez > Rooney & Berbatov. Real Talk.
Thaispider
03-15-2011, 06:04 PM
little pea, quickly becoming an old trafford legend.
Anyone else catch the Bayern-Inter game? It was pure awesome.
MilesHackett
03-15-2011, 06:58 PM
Anyone else catch the Bayern-Inter game? It was pure awesome.
I wish I had watched it instead of the United game. I love my team, but they didn't play very well and the game was rather dull.. looks like the Bayern/Inter game was quite dramatic. I love watching Muller lose.
I wish I had watched it instead of the United game. I love my team, but they didn't play very well and the game was rather dull.. looks like the Bayern/Inter game was quite dramatic. I love watching Muller lose.
Hernandez is a beast, knew it as soon as a i saw him at the WC. The game was awesome. Why do you dislike Muller? He's a boss, scored a beatiful goal tonight.
Muller is absolutely great for his age. But Bayern blew it. They had the away goal plus they won the first match, and they still managed to fuck up.
Madrid tonight. Wohooo. Also...Copenhagen for the upset :troll:
FunkYou
03-16-2011, 04:55 AM
So Inter are through. What are the chances Spurs draw them in the next round and play their 5th successive european game against a Milan side?
Thaispider
03-16-2011, 04:59 AM
lol thats bound to happen now funk, im hoping the english themas avoid each other till at least the semi's. i think most teams will be hoping to draw schalke as they seem to be the weakest team left in
Ive said it many times, Hernandez > Rooney & Berbatov. Real Talk.
Wrong talk. Hernandez is a great finisher, probably a more natural finisher than either of those two, but the rest of his game still needs to develop more before he's compared to Rooney or Berbatov.
Thaispider
03-16-2011, 05:12 AM
Wrong talk. Hernandez is a great finisher, probably a more natural finisher than either of those two, but the rest of his game still needs to develop more before he's compared to Rooney or Berbatov.
yeh i agree , give hernandez another year or two when he starts to round out his overall game and he will be feckin scary.
most natural finisher ive seen since dare i say it, the great ole gunnar solskjaer.
He's a better player than Solskjaer IMO, in fact I'd say there have been several more natural goalscorers than Solskjaer in the league since he retired.
There were several more natural goalscorers I'm the United side(s) Solskjaer played in.
Thaispider
03-16-2011, 05:22 AM
He's a better player than Solskjaer IMO, in fact I'd say there have been several more natural goalscorers than Solskjaer in the league since he retired.
There were several more natural goalscorers I'm the United side(s) Solskjaer played in.
maybe but if you look at the amount of times he came of the bench and fi ished with his first chance its impressive.
off topic a bit but what impressed me most about ole is how he convered him self into a very fine right winger before the injuries.
his wing play and crosses were spot on in the 02/03 season i think it was.
but on the subject of natural goalscorers, he did play alongside some fantastic finishers. RVN,Sheringham,Cole,Yorke.
Yeah I liked him on the wing too.
I like Solskjaer, but a lot of his success came down to him playing in such a good side. That United side from around 96-99 were incredible, any good player (which Solskjaer was) would have scored goals in that team. Some of what he did was amazing, the four goals against Forrest for example, but if he was as good as a lot of Man U fans make him out to be then he'd have held down a first team place more.
Thaispider
03-16-2011, 05:31 AM
he was one of those players who was never a nailed on regular starter but was the perfect fit in that sort of team.
how i do miss ole:cry: lol
Finally, the Galacticos are back into the 1/8 stage of CL !
Pearce
03-18-2011, 08:53 AM
So the CL quarter/semis have just been drawn.
Quarters:
Real Madrid v Tottenham
Chelsea v Man Utd
Barcelona v Shakhtar Donetsk
Inter Milan v Schalke 04
Semis:
Inter Milan/Schalke 04 v Chelsea/Man Utd
Real Madrid/Tottenham v Barcelona/Shakhtar Donetsk
I actually think the Real game is a winnable one for Spurs, providing we can hold steady at their ground. I think we're capable of beating them at the Lane.
Saying that, even if we were to get past Real, we're most likely facing Barca and that is pretty scary lol.
FunkYou
03-18-2011, 09:17 AM
Really tough side for the draw for Spurs. Real are beatable but wit our increasingly flaky defence I can see us getting murdelised.
Man utd / Chelsea will win this years contest for least riveting game that gets massive amounts of hype.
Pearce
03-18-2011, 09:31 AM
Yeah Gallas is out for a while now too which throws us even deeper into the shit-pit lol.
FunkYou
03-18-2011, 11:11 AM
White Hart Lane - Graveyard for Center Backs
e-thug
03-18-2011, 11:27 AM
Calling Man Utd/Barcelona final with Barcelona winning.
Pearce
03-18-2011, 11:32 AM
Just thought i'd mention that I just saw on Twitter than Gallas trained fully this morning and looks fine to face West Ham. So disregard my earlier comment! :)
FunkYou
03-18-2011, 11:33 AM
So disregard my earlier comment! :)
I always do.
Pearce
03-18-2011, 11:35 AM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_1oXlIutNGdE/TS6GhI5QE1I/AAAAAAAAAAc/LPxYcd5Mvo0/s1600/fuck-you.jpg
FunkYou
03-18-2011, 11:39 AM
Lets not us Spurs fans fight amongst ourselves. Instead let us turn that most despicable of creatures - The Villa fan.
Pearce
03-18-2011, 11:52 AM
Right you are.
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Sport/Pix/columnists/2009/6/11/1244720581489/Gareth-Barry-poses-with-M-002.jpg
http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Stephen+Carr+Arsenal+v+Birmingham+City+Carling+iv4 _RfiJJnPl.jpg
But lets not forget.. they do have King Emile...
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Pix/pictures/2010/7/15/1279210804111/Emile-Heskey-006.jpg
Wow, Barca got the perfect draw.
Tottenham guys, you know:
http://imnotgoingtorapeyou.com/raped.jpg
You were exposed by Milan in the 2nd and Real have an amazing squad.
Calling Man Utd/Barcelona final with Barcelona winning.
Real Madrid vs Schalke will be the finals. You watch ;)
Pearce
03-18-2011, 02:30 PM
Wow, Barca got the perfect draw.
Tottenham guys, you know:
http://imnotgoingtorapeyou.com/raped.jpg
You were exposed by Milan in the 2nd and Real have an amazing squad.
lol at that pic.
And although you're fishing for a debate here, i'll take the bait - how were we exposed in any way, shape or form against Milan?
And although you're fishing for a debate here, i'll take the bait - how were we exposed in any way, shape or form against Milan?
Serious? They were all over you at White Hart Lane, plus Madrid are a much better side than them, particularly in terms of potential matchwinners.
lol at that pic.
And although you're fishing for a debate here, i'll take the bait - how were we exposed in any way, shape or form against Milan?
Milan totally outcontrolled you. You didn't create anything worthy of mentioning offensively, relying solely on the failed long ball on Crouch, and they had like 60% possession.
Imagine what a better side, like Real Madrid, can do to you. I don't think your injury-plauged defence can oppose the quality Ronaldo, Özil, Di Maria, Kaka etc possess. You're gonna lose badly, you might score a few but you'll concede a lot.
Pearce
03-18-2011, 02:50 PM
They were better going foeward with the ball than us (hardly an accomplishment considering how one dimensional we looked lobbing balls up to Lankybollocks that night, but if anything their failure to score despite dominating or 'exposing' us is more of a testament to how well we defended.
Tottenham played probably the worst football we've played at the Lane all season and they couldn't even score. The stat sheets were even pretty well balance. Maybe i'm misunderstanding what you're saying but I don't see how that means we were exposed.
EDIT:
And to Q_F.
I dont know why you're talking like I implied we were going to walk over Real. I never even said that, I said we had a chance of winning the game. My reply is referring to Milan 'exposing' us, what exactly did they expose?
Exposed in the sense that they got outpossessed and that Milan could deal with their pacey wingers, which are the key for their game. Maybe we have different definitions of the word "exposed".
My reply is referring to Milan 'exposing' us, what exactly did they expose?
That a team who aren't a particularly great passing side can control possession and force you into playing an ineffective long ball game for 90 minutes?
I also wouldn't say you defended that well either, not as well as your last post implied at least. When you consider that Milan's main attacking options were Robinho -who, as usual, looked half interested- and Ibrahimovic -who, as usual, completely disappeared in the big game- I'd say you did pretty well defensively, but shoddy finishing saved you more than defensive heroics.
I suppose you could make the point that Robinho and Ibrahimovic failed to perform precisely because of this resolute defending, but, given similar performances from them in previous big games, I wouldn't buy it.
Personally I don't think you can put too much stock in one performance, but even based on your entire run in Europe this year (which has been impressive) I'd favour Madrid very heavily. There were much easier draws for you than this IMO.
*conveniently ignores the anti-Villa post from earlier for a second time*
;)
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Exposed in the sense that they got outpossessed and that Milan could deal with their pacey wingers, which are the key for their game. Maybe we have different definitions of the word "exposed".
To be fair, Spurs' big threat down the wing, Bale, only came on for the last 25 minutes or so and even then it was more of a run out for a player coming back from injury than anything.
Sure, but Lennon fucked up Milan in the first leg and he didn't do much in London. I feel that the whole Tottenham team is rather fast and Milan were able to deal with it.
Pearce
03-18-2011, 05:12 PM
That a team who aren't a particularly great passing side can control possession and force you into playing an ineffective long ball game for 90 minutes?
I'll agree that Milan absolutely controlled possession in the first half but the second half was much more balanced, with Sandro dropping slightly deeper and intercepting Seedorf's passes through the middle.
I also wouldn't say you defended that well either, not as well as your last post implied at least. When you consider that Milan's main attacking options were Robinho -who, as usual, looked half interested- and Ibrahimovic -who, as usual, completely disappeared in the big game- I'd say you did pretty well defensively, but shoddy finishing saved you more than defensive heroics.
Again, thats your opinion and its fair enough but Milan have more players who can create something (who weren't able to against Spurs) than just Slobinho and Ibrahimovic. Seedorf was great in the first half and Pato also played, the fact that Tottenham kept a clean sheet can't be entirely discredited. With that little off-the-line clearance aside, I honestly think we defended pretty well.
Personally I don't think you can put too much stock in one performance, but even based on your entire run in Europe this year (which has been impressive) I'd favour Madrid very heavily. There were much easier draws for you than this IMO.
That much is obvious, Schalke or Donetsk would have been fantastic, but I still stand by the fact that if we turn up, with our key players properly fit then we have a serious chance of getting a result. Whether you're a Spurs fan or not, you'd have to agree.
*conveniently ignores the anti-Villa post from earlier for a second time* ;)
LOL sorry mate - all's fair in love and war...
FunkYou
03-19-2011, 04:11 AM
A spurs side which sat back and tried to survive in the second leg against Milan succeeded. Suddenly this is getting exposed. If you didn't already know that our striukers are sahit and our best players were injured then I don't know what to say to you.
If anything it showed the team spirit we have developed this year and the fact that we don't let ourselves get beaten by a better team because we only pnow one method of winning and can't adjust*ahem Arsenal Ahem*.
Are we likely to win against Madrid? Nope. Can we win against Madrid? Absolutely.
Don't get grumpy Funkman, you being in the 1/4 is quite something, it's just that you looked pretty bad in that game.
FunkYou
03-19-2011, 06:37 AM
Not grumpy fella. I expected to get beat by Milan (both of them). I think we will get beat by Madrid but as long as we don't get a new torn a new ass hole I will be happy with our first foray into the CL.
I will be even happier if we can get in the top 4 again.
If anything it showed the team spirit we have developed this year and the fact that we don't let ourselves get beaten by a better team because we only pnow one method of winning and can't adjust*ahem Arsenal Ahem*.
Are you talking about the Barca game? Because your tactics at home to Milan were pretty much the same as Arsenal's away to Barca. It's just that Barca are a vastly superior side to Milan.
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