Idea For A Forum Tournament

[Brad.Taschuk]

So I'm thinking of getting some nominations of fights that people think are the best MMA fights ever, and then putting them into either a 16 or 32 fight tournament, and have people vote on each pairing until we get down to only one fight that we can declare the Official FLD greatest fight of all time.

Anybody think this would be a good idea? If so, throwing some nominations down below.

And even if someone else has already mentioned a fight you think belongs in the tournament, write it down anyways, as I'll determine which fights gain entry based on most nominations. Criteria for fights is really an individual thing, if someone thinks a fight is the greatest ever based on what it meant and not necessarily the fight itself (i.e. Saku-Royce, Griffin-Bonnar 1), feel free to nominate it.

I'll get it started:

Saku-Newton - PRIDE 3
Newton-Pele - PRIDE 19
Big Nog-Cro Cop - FC 2003
Shogun-Lil Nog - CC 2005
Buscape-Azeredo - Bushido 6
Silva-Jackson 2 - PRIDE 28
Frank-Tito - UFC 22
Couture-Rizzo 1 - UFC 31
Diaz-Parisyan - UFC 49
Sanchez-Parisyan - UFN 6

I'll be back once I look through my archives to find some fights from smaller orgs, but there's a good start.

[mls]

Fuck it, it isn't mma but not many fights can beat Hunt/Sefo.

[MJB23]

Awesome idea Brad.

Here's another non MMA one but it really deserves to be thrown in the mix... Hug/Mirko

[Brad.Taschuk]

After scouring the interwebz, and my massive collection of dvds, I'm thinking the field might need to be expanded to 64. We could go all March Madness style, and have a bracket each for: Primarily Striking, Primarily Grappling, All-Around, and Non-MMA... that'd be a lot of work though.

EDIT: Or the brackets could be UFC, PRIDE, Other MMA, Non-MMA. So many possibilities.

SECOND EDIT: Links or Vids of those fights?

[MilesHackett]

Damn, great idea Brad! I'll need some time to brainstorm.. off the top of my head:


Sakuraba/Newton
Edgar/Griffin
Rua/Nogueira
Nogueira/Cro Cop
Nogueira/Sylvia
Nogueira/Herring 1
Fujita/Fedor
Chonan/Silva
Couture/Rizzo 1
Parisyan/Sanchez - http://mixedmartialartvideos.com/2007/11/01/karo-parisyan-vs-diego-sanchez/

More will follow!

[Tripod]

Good idea indeed. But it will take quite a bit of organization and work to get this running.

And I have a feeling over 64 fights will be mentioned...how are we going to narrow down the qualifiers?

[vikingpride]

Frye/Takayama from pride 21. This should be put under guilty pleasure fight. Little to no skill was involved, but 2 dudes just came out clinched and beat the hell out of each other until Takayama looked like he had been hit by a bus.

Another more recent one i liked was Mcdonald/ Maia. Really good ground battle Where maia wasn't completely dominant for the first time. J-mac even had Maia's back for awhile and nearly got a RNC.

[Suizida]

Nog v Tim Sylvia
Nog v CC
Nog v Hendo 2
Hendo v Shungo Ayoma
Rampage v Wandi 2
Diaz v Lawler
Maia v Mcdonald
Kos v Hazelett
Forrest v Rampage
Anderson v Franklin 2

more to come later

[Brad.Taschuk]

Good idea indeed. But it will take quite a bit of organization and work to get this running.

I think I'm up to the task, since I'm quite interested in seeing how this all plays out.

And I have a feeling over 64 fights will be mentioned...how are we going to narrow down the qualifiers?

I'm probably going to leave nominations open for about a week, or until the thread starts to die down drastically. The 64 fights that qualify will be selected based on the number of nominations they get. For instance, right now Big Nog-CC has 3 nominations already, and is in the lead.

Since there will likely be a tie through 64th place, I'll probably post a poll of 10 fights that are "on-the-bubble" and have the most -> least votes in that to be used as a tie-breaker.

Working on my non-PRIDE/UFC list.

[Aaron]

this needs to be done independently if you want any legit results

[Brad.Taschuk]

this needs to be done independently if you want any legit results

I think in most cases you'd be right. Right now our forum is still at a size where it's mostly knowledgeable people, and we won't end up with Griffin-Bonnar 1 in the final or winning the whole thing though.

Here and Subfighter are probably the only two places you can do this and get a real result.

Some input in terms of fights would be greatly appreciated though.

[Malky]

How about Randy vs Tito or Spencer Fisher vs Stout 2. I've also got a soft spot for Fujita vs Fedor

[Darkgecko]

Might not go far in the tourney, but one of my favorite fights was Torres vs Maeda

Also MacDonald vs Maia
Lidell vs Wandy




hmm these are all pretty recent, though.

[PirateNinja415]

I think this is a great idea man, here are some of my favorite fights:
gomi vs diaz
neer vs nate
hazelett vs burkman
crocop vs big nog
rampage vs arona
franklin vs silva I
chuck vs tito II
rampage vs hendo
rampage vs chuck
gsp hughes I and II

[Robb2140]

Hunt vs CroCop 2
Hunt vs Wandy
Diaz vs Gomi
Griffen vs Bonnar 1 (FTW, n00bish or not this was a damn good fight)
Baroni vs Minowa 1
Shogun vs Lil Nog
Nog vs Herring 1
Diaz vs Karo
Lidell vs Metzger
Stout vs Fisher 1
Kerr vs Varelans (I know this won't win, but it's a personal fav)

[mls]

x11obk

[Jack]

I think in most cases you'd be right. Right now our forum is still at a size where it's mostly knowledgeable people, and we won't end up with Griffin-Bonnar 1 in the final or winning the whole thing though.
Here and Subfighter are probably the only two places you can do this and get a real result.

Some input in terms of fights would be greatly appreciated though.

I nearly proposed something similar to this over at MMA forum but didn't bother for this exact reason.

Nice idea Brad, I'll post some suggestions later but I'm gonna go play some more of the demo for now.:D

[e-thug]

A fantastic idea and believe it or not I was thinking about doing something similar but instead scoring fights on a criteria and seeing which fight scored the most points.

This is my rough draft but the criteria would've looked something like this:

How much hype was around the fight.
How entertaining was the fight.
How great was the ending of the fight.
What implications did it have on the division.

Just a rough draft but it certainly something I may do.

[bbjd7]

Shogun vs Rog Nog
Rog Nog vs Nakamura 1
Rod Nog vs Cro Cop
Rod Nog vs Sylvia
Cro Cop vs Fedor
Tyson Griffin vs Frankie Edgar
Tyson Grffin vs Clay Guida
Tyson Griffin vs Thiago Taveras
Clay Guida vs Roger Huerta
Diego Sanchez vs Jon Fitch
Diego Sanchez vs Karo
Diego vs Nick Diaz
Nick Diaz vs Karo
Scott Smith vs Pete Sell
Scott Smith vs Benji Radach
Sean Sherk vs Tyson Griffin
Matt Hughes vs Frank Trigg 2
Nick Diaz vs Gomi
Azeredo vs Gomi 1
Rampage vs Henderson
Shogun vs Arona

Edit- Forgot Dida vs Alvarez, Hansen vs Alvarez, Kawajiri vs Alvarez, Ishida vs Uno, Uno vs Aoki, JZ vs Aoki 2, Jacare vs Mayhem, Frye vs Takiyama, and Cullum vs Wicky

[MJB23]

Not sure if I've seen this one yet or not but Penn/Uno.

[bbjd7]

You mean Penn vs Uno 2 right?

[Meshuggeth]

Torres vs Maeda in cas it hasn't been mentioned

[MJB23]

You mean Penn vs Uno 2 right?

Whichever one was better.

I can't remember off hand right now.

[Jack]

Whichever one was better.

I can't remember off hand right now.

The first one Penn KO'd him in like 11 seconds, the second (which I think you're on about) was the draw for the title.

[MJB23]

The first one Penn KO'd him in like 11 seconds, the second (which I think you're on about) was the draw for the title.

Yeah the second one is the one I was talking about.

[Sewaside]

In the non-mma I'd like to add Ali/Frazier 3 the Thrilla in Manilla which I believe to be the best boxing match myself personally has ever seen. I've never seen a fight in any combat sport where two guys took so many power shots and didn't drop once. Too bad Ali had to give up his health for such a great fight. I don't know if you guys seen it but they have a special on HBO on the fight and I have a new found respect for Joe Frazier. It's crazy cuz Ali was begging them to cut his gloves off and they wouldn't and Frazier is begging his corner to let him keep fighting and they won't. Wow it's crazy how different history could of been. Hearns/Hagler should definitely have a spot too and probably Duran/Leonard

[bbjd7]

Hell Juan Diaz vs JMM was awesome and so were JMM vs Pac 1 and 2.

[Jack]

JMM - PacMan 1 & 2 were definitely the goodness.

[Sewaside]

Corrales vs. Castillo I

That made me a Chico fan forever.... R.I.P.

[mls]

Corrales vs. Castillo I

That made me a Chico fan forever.... R.I.P.

Round 10 was fucking amazing

[Sewaside]

Round 10 was fucking amazing

You are not lying... The thing is I been a boxing fan for years but got away from it and never saw the fight until after Chico died. Sucks man... That round is what boxing SHOULD be.

[Brad.Taschuk]

Great stuff guys! 66 MMA nominations so far (16 fights with multiple noms), without me adding my expanded picks. I'm gonna have to nominate some outside the box fights, since there are some that people might not know about, but clearly deserve to be in here. There are also some pretty interesting omissions thus far.

Keep em coming!

[Brad.Taschuk]

Alright, my updated nomination list:

Nominated by others:
Fujita-Fedor
Edgar-Griffin
Big Nog-Herring 1
Wandy-Hunt
Minowa-Baroni 1
Fedor-Cro Cop
Griffin-Guida
Griffin-Tavares
Hughes-Trigg 2
Gomi-Azeredo 1
Cullum-Wicky

New Nominations:
Sato-Uno 1 - Shooto
Manhoef-Cyborg - Cage Rage
Viera-Obiya - DEEP
Jakaczynski-Berger - bodogFIGHT
Saku-Smirnovas - Hero's
Shogun-Babalu - IFC
Mach-Trigg - Shooto
Kawajiri-Shaolin 1 - Shooto
Kawajiri-Shaolin 2 - Shooto
Carvalho-Sato - Shooto
Ishikawa-Abe - Shooto
Oishi-Ikeda 3 - Shooto
Fedor-Nog 3
Wand-Yoshida 1
Gomi-Kawajiri
Gomi-Pulver
Sakurai-Pulver
Saku-Royce
Big Nog-Barnett 1
Big Nog-Sapp
Frye-Shamrock
Newton-Renzo
Ninja-Sperry
Burnett-Tadeu
Davis-Taylor

This is gonna be fun stuff. 91 MMA nominations now, and 24 fights have multiple nominations.