NFL Draft

[Brad.Taschuk]

I bet MLS was shitting himself when the Raiders passed up Crabtree for Heyward-Bay.

Anybody bored enough like me to be watching this?

[e-thug]

Kind of watching it at work and yeah not sure about the Heyward-Bay draft, the guys super fast, but his hands arent all that great.

[Tripod]

LOL at the Raiders. Absolutely terrible. I think Al Davis is involved in some conspiracy to make the Raiders terrible and everyone that plays for the Raiders terrible.

[e-thug]

LOL at the Raiders. Absolutely terrible. I think Al Davis is involved in some conspiracy to make the Raiders terrible and everyone that plays for the Raiders terrible.

As a raiders fan I certainly hear ya, the last several years have been painful to watch.

[Brad.Taschuk]

Ouch, you should almost be more embarrassed to be a Raiders fan than I am to be a Lions fan.

Also, was that Cushing's sister or GF? She was smoking!

[Tripod]

As a raiders fan I certainly hear ya, the last several years have been painful to watch.

Ouch man...I don't think the raiders will be good again for a long while. They just look so totally lost and have no idea what's going on.

And fuck New Orleans for taking Jenkins. I was really hoping Houston could get him.

[e-thug]

Ouch, you should almost be more embarrassed to be a Raiders fan than I am to be a Lions fan.

Also, was that Cushing's sister or GF? She was smoking!


Lol, dunno about that, you guys just got done setting a NFL record for not winning a single game in a season and I'll even go as far as admitting that you're team looked better on paper last season!

And Tripod I think your right, although with the way our division has been the last couple seasons we could win a division with an 8-8 record!

[mls]

I was sooooooooo happy the raiders didn't get Crab, though I was a little surprised Jacksonville passed on him.

Anyone else get tired of the Sanchez ball washing?

[Tripod]

I was sooooooooo happy the raiders didn't get Crab, though I was a little surprised Jacksonville passed on him.

Anyone else get tired of the Sanchez ball washing?

YES. Jesus, fuck Sanchez. I actually think both QBs will bust. But that's just me.

Who's your football team MLS? Since Austin has none.

[mls]

I'm not sold on Sanchez, Stafford, or Freeman. Hell Tech's defense stopped Freeman.

My team would be the cowboys and I get to wait awhile for a draft pick since they made that horrible trade for Williams. Horrible in that they gave up WAY to much.

[vikingpride]

Good choice MLS.

Your right. They did give up WAY to much for a guy Detroit didn;t even really want. Jerry needs to learn the rules of Supply and demand.

I'm still pumped for the season though. The team should just turn into a run heavy offense. Barber, Jones (felix of course), and Choice. Thats a hell of a backfield and if that enormous O-line would actually be consistent for once they could destroy teams. The backs would have to stay healthy for once though. Jason Garret would also have to realize this isn't madden and would have to mix up the play calling a bit.

One last thing don't worry the Sanchez ball washing could be worse. I mean he's a USC QB we're lucky they haven't literally got on their knees yet.

[zzTIGERzz81]

Well I personally love wathcing the draft and I just got done watching the whole thing...the Raiders drafted a late 1st round to 2nd round guy at #7 and they followed it up with a possible free agent guy in the 2nd round.

Wow...the Cowboys didn't want anything to do with the first day and the Broncos gave up Jay Cutler for Alfonso Smith basically. I think Denver had good picks, but Moreno as their first pick just boggles my mind. McDaniels could be a worse coach then Marinelli was.

My Saints got who they really wanted, I just hope he is good. I am glad we didn't make some desparate trade and give up more picks. I think Loomis can really evaluate talent, but the guy needs to apply that to the draft and not trades and free agency.

Cleveland just kept trading down that was pretty funny.

LSU now at 3 straight years with a player in the top 5 and 6 with at least one in the first round. Now we got some serious value guys for the third and 4th left. I really hope that the Saints have the chance to pick up Curtis Taylor.

I was surprised that McBath went as high as he did, because I thought he was a sleeper. I think the dude can play, but I wasn't aware that any team was that high on him.

[mls]

Good choice MLS.

Your right. They did give up WAY to much for a guy Detroit didn;t even really want. Jerry needs to learn the rules of Supply and demand.

I'm still pumped for the season though. The team should just turn into a run heavy offense. Barber, Jones (felix of course), and Choice. Thats a hell of a backfield and if that enormous O-line would actually be consistent for once they could destroy teams. The backs would have to stay healthy for once though. Jason Garret would also have to realize this isn't madden and would have to mix up the play calling a bit.

One last thing don't worry the Sanchez ball washing could be worse. I mean he's a USC QB we're lucky they haven't literally got on their knees yet.

Flozell frustrates me to no end. The guy has the talent but every game we have to deal with him not knowing the damn snap count.

Jones is real important for next year because we saw what happened when Barber had to carry the load, he got worn down.

Well I personally love wathcing the draft and I just got done watching the whole thing...the Raiders drafted a late 1st round to 2nd round guy at #7 and they followed it up with a possible free agent guy in the 2nd round.

Lol, passing on Crabtree and Maclin for Bay and a guy no one knows seems perfect for the Raiders.

I was surprised that McBath went as high as he did, because I thought he was a sleeper. I think the dude can play, but I wasn't aware that any team was that high on him.

I was surprised too, I thought he would get taken 4-5 round at best. Wonder if they will use him at cb or safety because with Denver getting Dawkins that is great for Darcel too learn off of.

[vikingpride]

The thing with Flozell is you can count on him getting called for a false start at least once a game (very consistent). His knee's also seemed to go about as soon as signed that big deal. His lateral quickness is near non existent and he gets burned by every single speed rusher in the game (which is about all the G-men have).

Like i said though Flozell is one of the more consistent guys on the line. It's just to bad that he's consistently awful. Gurode hasn't come close to mastering the shotgun snap what so ever. The team also needs to address there weakness at LG. The spot is so weak Kosier was actually missed last year when he went down.

I still think Mcbriar is one of the 5 most important players on the team. I mean when he went down we really got killed in field position. At least when he was around he could boot it 70 yards and then of course the team would return it 30 on our awful coverage unit, but at least we changed 40 yards.

One more thing i believe Demarcus Ware is possibly Neo from the matrix. He always seems to be called off sides because of the huge jumps he gets at the snap. Sooner or later he's gonna beat the ball to the QB i know it.

[Tripod]

Yeah fuck you and your saints zz. I was so excited for Malcolm Jenkins coming to Houston. And then yall screw us.

I think Dallas is screwed this year though. Romo is so horribly overrated it's...well, horrible. You can count on 2-3 turnovers every single game and just stupid decisions. Now that he doesn't have TO, we will see the real Romo and just how bad he is.

But maybe I think all this because I'm from Houston :p



...but no, seriously. Romo is overrated though.

[vikingpride]

To much blame gets thrown on Romo. Does he make alot of mistakes yes, but alot of them start from a deeper problem. That problem is Jason Garret. He continuously calls the same play or similar plays. Alot of times that play calling will get them down in games and force Romo into thinking he has to make more plays out of nothing. So he forces alot of balls into bad spots.

TO also didn;t help things too much. Did Owens put up big numbers yes, but the team also catered to him sometimes to much. Instead of just trying to win games they had to try and win games and keep TO happy. The team also used him as a crutch alot. Owens also dropped a ton of balls and has slowed down and can longer make plays against a double team like he use too.

The thing is ROMO really isn;t overrated. I mean does he get shown alot on TV and help the cowboys get alot of games aired on national TV yes, but no one thinks he's that great.

I mean it's not like his dad was a QB and then his brother became a great Qb. Then he jumps into the league sucks for ever and then finally is apart of a winning team in thanks to a great O-line, coaching staff and Defense and suddenly people think he's the best in the game. Although he's nothing more then an average QB put in a great situation where he does little more then try not to lose the game for his team.

[mls]

I'm pissed the cowboys let Amendola leave, he is pretty much Wes Welker and well, Welker killed the cowboys when they played the pats.

[Tripod]

To much blame gets thrown on Romo. Does he make alot of mistakes yes, but alot of them start from a deeper problem. That problem is Jason Garret. He continuously calls the same play or similar plays. Alot of times that play calling will get them down in games and force Romo into thinking he has to make more plays out of nothing. So he forces alot of balls into bad spots.

TO also didn;t help things too much. Did Owens put up big numbers yes, but the team also catered to him sometimes to much. Instead of just trying to win games they had to try and win games and keep TO happy. The team also used him as a crutch alot. Owens also dropped a ton of balls and has slowed down and can longer make plays against a double team like he use too.

The thing is ROMO really isn;t overrated. I mean does he get shown alot on TV and help the cowboys get alot of games aired on national TV yes, but no one thinks he's that great.

I mean it's not like his dad was a QB and then his brother became a great Qb. Then he jumps into the league sucks for ever and then finally is apart of a winning team in thanks to a great O-line, coaching staff and Defense and suddenly people think he's the best in the game. Although he's nothing more then an average QB put in a great situation where he does little more then try not to lose the game for his team.

It's not just interceptions. It's the sacks he takes and the fumbles he has. I have honestly never ever seen anyone drop so many balls in my life.

And not that many people think he's great? Man, I see everyone riding Romo's nuts like crazy. People not from Dallas included. Even some sports analyzers thinks he's amazing and a huge game changer.

Of course it's not all Romo...but quite a bit is.

[Darkgecko]

As a hardcore 49ers fan, I would like to thank Al Davis, and all of his fully supportive Raider Nation in letting the best Receiver in years slip to #10.

But at least they have a guy who can return kicks...

[zzTIGERzz81]

I am surprised that Hoyer is still available...he is the best QB in this draft to me. The lions should have drafted him and loaded up on other needs at the front of the draft.

[mls]

The cowboys picks just continue to confuse me.

The secondary sucks so they pick a linebacker (which they have millions of) and an o-lineman.

[Robb2140]

I was sooooooooo happy the raiders didn't get Crab, though I was a little surprised Jacksonville passed on him.

Anyone else get tired of the Sanchez ball washing?

Not me baby!!

As a long time Jet fan I am soooo happy they went out and got themselves a big time college QB like Sanchez. I like Sanchez alot because he can physicly play in the NFL and it seems like he has the right type of head on his shoulders to deal with the NY media and the pressure of playing in the NFL.

I don't expect him to come out and put up huge numbers as a rookie, but in time I think he can be our franchise QB for the long run. Right now the Jets recieving corps isn't good at all, but that hopefully will change.

But then again this is the Jets we are talking about, so I wouldn't be surprised if Sanchez blows out his knee in training camp and never sees the field. Thats what Jet history is all about. I mean shit we took Ken O'Brian over Elway, Jim Kelly and Dan Marino, We also passed on Emmit Smith to take Blair Freakin Thomas. The list goes on and on.

Hopefully this is the start of a new era for the Jets.

J-E-T-S!!!!!!!!!

[mls]

Decent representation from Tech in this Draft

Crabtree at 10
McBath at 48
Vasquez at 78

And 2 more who will probably get drafted.

[Robb2140]

Decent representation from Tech in this Draft

Crabtree at 10
McBath at 48
Vasquez at 78

And 2 more who will probably get drafted.

I was really hoping the Jets would draft Crabtree, we desperatly need help at WR, but we also needed a QB, hopefully Sanchez pans out.

[Brad.Taschuk]

I'm not at all a Bengals fan, but I really like what they've done in the draft.

Smith, Maualuga, Johnson, Coffman and Luigs all address their needs and are crazy talented. There are some character issues with Smith and Johnson, but if someone in that locker room can step up and be a leader (always been the problem in Cincy), this could be a huge draft for them.

If the Packers had more picks they could've had a really impressive draft too. Raji and Matthews are gonna help turn that defense around in a hurry. Even with Cutler on the Bears, I see the Packers taking the division this year.

[mls]

Well dammit, cowboys picked a Tech player so I can't complain now.

Wonder what they plan on doing with Brandon Williams because he gets to the qb, has a great motor, gets off the ball quickly but isn't overly fast and he definitely needs to work on getting better at stopping the run.

I think it would be a stretch and take quite a bit of work to get him to be a good lb but if they put him at d-end with Ware and Ellis to help him out he should do decent. With that said, I really wish he would have stayed for his senior year to help Tech's d-line out and to have helped his stock a little more.

Oh on Cincy, have to add Maualuga's character issue's in there as well.

[Wise]

Vikings pretty much picked up everything they needed. Got Percy Harvin which will help hopefully take some of the attention off Adrian Peterson. Needed and OT and CB so Im glad we scooped those up to although I dont really know much about the guys they got.

[Tripod]

I wish Erin Andrews interviewed Maualuga when he was picked.

DdDGYsYXHKc

[Wise]

I wish I could grind up on Erin Andrews.

[vikingpride]

The cowboys picks just continue to confuse me.

The secondary sucks so they pick a linebacker (which they have millions of) and an o-lineman.

I'm not too upset so far. I mean they need to adress the secondary, but they also needed help on special teams coverage unit and Depth on the line.

Williams is yet another athletic OLB, but at the very least he has the ability to be a great special teams guy.

Brewster is a tackle, but it looks like he might be better suited to be a guard which could help strengthen that area. Which like i said was not to great to begin with and got awful when Kosier went down.

Deanglo smith is billed as a ballhawk at corner and could even be moved to Safety which would be awesome. One of the real struggles of this defense obviously is the secondary, but also there ability to get turnovers. Best of all we have seen the last of Anthony Henry trying to pose as a corner. The Guy is just painfully slow.

[zzTIGERzz81]

I'm not at all a Bengals fan, but I really like what they've done in the draft.

Smith, Maualuga, Johnson, Coffman and Luigs all address their needs and are crazy talented. There are some character issues with Smith and Johnson, but if someone in that locker room can step up and be a leader (always been the problem in Cincy), this could be a huge draft for them.

If the Packers had more picks they could've had a really impressive draft too. Raji and Matthews are gonna help turn that defense around in a hurry. Even with Cutler on the Bears, I see the Packers taking the division this year.

I agree I think them and the Dolphins really did well in this draft. Also think Houston did really well. I can honestly say I have no idea who half the guys the Falcons picked are.

Vikings pretty much picked up everything they needed. Got Percy Harvin which will help hopefully take some of the attention off Adrian Peterson. Needed and OT and CB so Im glad we scooped those up to although I dont really know much about the guys they got.

I actually want to be a Vikings fan now.

[Wise]

I actually want to be a Vikings fan now.

Remember its still TJ or Sage throwing to him so Im not feeling all that confident in the world. :p

[Brad.Taschuk]

I agree I think them and the Dolphins really did well in this draft. Also think Houston did really well. I can honestly say I have no idea who half the guys the Falcons picked are.

Pat White + Ronnie Brown = WILDCAT!!! FTW

[zzTIGERzz81]

Remember its still TJ or Sage throwing to him so Im not feeling all that confident in the world. :pI will take that combo over Pierre Thomas and Reggie Bush running the ball which will turn into Pierre Thomas and Lynell Hamilton after Bush goes down for the season again.

Pat White + Ronnie Brown = WILDCAT!!! FTW
White is probably going to have a much better career then either Sanchez or Stafford too. He has a much better arm.

I was also pissed that New Orleans didn't draft Rashad Jennings with their 5th round. Loomis drafted a punter over a RB...great job. I bet that punter could have been picked up in free agency. Tell me if 6'1" 230 lbs 4.4 40 time doesn't sound like Chris Wells type stats and he has no injury history.

[mls]

Looks like the cowboys are gonna give Harrell a tryout.

[Tripod]

As much as I hate Harrell and those damn Red Raiders, I think he could be a dark horse QB and has potential to be successful. Although he's going to need an invincible line in front of him though.

[zzTIGERzz81]

As much as I hate Harrell and those damn Red Raiders, I think he could be a dark horse QB and has potential to be successful. Although he's going to need an invincible line in front of him though.
I just don't think his arm is strong enough. But I said the same about Pennington and he has been good enough.

[mls]

Well Harrell signed with the Browns. I think he just needs time right now, he is smart with the ball and accurate on the throws he makes. He isn't gonna heave an 80 yard td but I think his arm is good enough.

But it's interesting because now Tech has the opposite of Graham at qb now. Potts is 6'5 225 lbs, fairly mobile, and has an absolute cannon for an arm. He is going to open up the vertical game for the offense. But he isn't as accurate as Graham right now nor does he always makes the best decisions, hopefully those will come.

[KJ Brophy]

I loved what my Eagles did. The only pick that I didn't like was in the 7th round and that was the G out of Arizona St. There line was atrocious.

[bleSs]

I think We (The Eagles) had a fantastic draft this year.. Jeremy Maclin haa nicee

[Tripod]

I have to say, the Eagles are my second favorite team behind my Texans (I have no idea how I got to love the Eagles so much), but I think they had a decent draft at best. How many 1st round WRs have they drafted and completely fucked up on? Too many. Add to that the fact they could have got Anquan Boldin for that first round pick + a tiny tiny bit more (if anything else at all), and you have to consider that first pick a loss. No way Maclin will be as productive and good as Boldin, especially in these first 3 years.

[zzTIGERzz81]

I have to say, the Eagles are my second favorite team behind my Texans (I have no idea how I got to love the Eagles so much), but I think they had a decent draft at best. How many 1st round WRs have they drafted and completely fucked up on? Too many. Add to that the fact they could have got Anquan Boldin for that first round pick + a tiny tiny bit more (if anything else at all), and you have to consider that first pick a loss. No way Maclin will be as productive and good as Boldin, especially in these first 3 years.

Apparently Boldin wasn't on the block. Fisher (from the Titans) said he inquired about it and they didn't say anything except that Boldin was not available. And don't forget that they added Jason Peters one of the best LT's in the NFL with their other 1st round pick. I think the Eagles, Steelers, Colts, and Patriots have all earned the right to not care what the fans and media think of their drafts. And wasn't Jackson supposed to be a reach when they picked him last year. I personally think that Maclin will be one of the best WR's in this draft. I really do. His hands are probably better then everyone's...he has decent size...great cuts...really good route running..and is not afraid to go over the middle or lay a block. I love the guy and was really surprised when Oakland passed on him.

[KJ Brophy]

I have to say, the Eagles are my second favorite team behind my Texans (I have no idea how I got to love the Eagles so much), but I think they had a decent draft at best. How many 1st round WRs have they drafted and completely fucked up on? Too many. Add to that the fact they could have got Anquan Boldin for that first round pick + a tiny tiny bit more (if anything else at all), and you have to consider that first pick a loss. No way Maclin will be as productive and good as Boldin, especially in these first 3 years.

The only first round WR they have drafted in the Andy Ried era has been Freddie Mitchell. Reid usually likes to adress his defensive line in the first round. Also like ZZ said Boldin was never on the block the Arizona GM said so but ESPN kept on trying to make a story out of nothing.

Also I found this and thought it was kind of funny:

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