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steph05050
03-31-2009, 02:10 PM
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As "The Ultimate Fighter" reality show starts its ninth season on Spike TV Wednesday, the first match on the live "UFN 18: Condit vs. Kampmann" event from Nashville, Tenn., represents the paradox of the show itself.

"TUF 8" cast member Junie Browning (3-0 MMA, 1-0 UFC) was without question the most talked about and well-remembered participant on the show in several seasons.

Was it because he was the vaunted "next Anderson Silva" that UFC President Dana White hyped would come out of the season? No. Was it because he had a great match in the finals? No.

In fact, it had absolutely nothing to do with his fighting ability.

The story of season eight was largely Dana White would try and figure out a way to justify Browning not being kicked out of the house, for getting drunk and out of control, and breaking the big no-no, starting fights, on several occasions. From almost day one, Browning seemed like he was on his last strike, and the next week would start up something stupid again. But somehow, he never struck out.

In doing so, Browning meant ratings. Shows built around him drew the biggest numbers of the season. On the Dec. 13, 2008, "TUF" finals, between the first run of the show and the repeat, it was Browning's win over Dave Kaplan, the opening bout on the show, that drew the most viewers, even beating the championship matches.

That answers the question of why Browning vs. Cole Miller is on the live broadcast on Wednesday night, while far more accomplished fighters like Matt Horwich, Ricardo Almeida, Gleison Tibau and Brock Larson are relegated to prelims.

But unlike a television series, where if there is a public fascination with a character, they get more exposure, in fighting, you can only be protected to a degree.

And his opponent on Wednesday night, Cole Miller (14-3 MMA, 3-1 UFC), is not "protection."

Sporting a 14-3 record, the 24-year-old American Top Team lightweight came from season five of the reality show, and has gone 3-1 in UFC competition. At 6-foot-1, he's tall for a lightweight, and is particularly strong from the bottom, with his best move being a triangle. That was the move he hooked with 12 seconds left in a fight he was about to lose via decision, to submit Brazilian jiu-jitsu black belt Jorge Gurgel in his last match on July 5. Miller is coming off knee surgery after the fight.

The Browning who fought on the reality show probably wouldn't last long with Miller. And Miller is hardly treating him like he's some sort of a gimmick.

"He's 1-0 in the UFC as far as I'm concerned," Miller said. "I don't care how he performed or acted while on the show. He's a hard-nosed purple belt in jiu-jitsu with a good chin. I'm training for this fight like I did for my last fight, like it will be my last."

Browning made for entertaining television as a bleached-blond stereotype of a small-town Kentuckian from the sticks (in reality, he is from Lexington, Ky., hardly a small town), who couldn't handle his alcohol and went through major fits of depression. Browning's short-term benefits that resulted from his behavior make him a character future fighters on the show may emulate, particularly if they see they can't win their contract by taking the tournament.

But if you look long-term, for UFC and Spike, the most successful "TUF" characters, like Forrest Griffin, Rashad Evans and Michael Bisping, were not successful long-term because of anything memorable on the show, but because of how successful they were as fighters once the show was over.

Even Chris Leben and Josh Koscheck in season one, probably the closest equivalents to Browning, got noticed for bad reasons at first. But their fighting since leaving that has caused their careers to sink or swim.

Browning's notoriety may keep him in the company even with a loss, which may not be the case with a more quiet member of the cast. But long-term, if he can't win more than he loses, he won't have a long UFC career.

But the Browning of today insists that a different person is showing up on Wednesday.

"Those fights on the show, that's not me," said Browning, who also said he couldn't show his skill on the show because he wasn't in shape.

"[Miller] has a very traditional style of jiu-jitsu that doesn't transition to MMA as well," Browning said. "After watching many of his fights, I think our styles will make for a great match-up. I think people have the wrong idea from "The Ultimate Fighter" that I have a weak ground game. Being out of shape played the biggest part in my lack of jiu-jitsu on the show."

Another change is moving to Las Vegas and training with world-class athletes at the Xtreme Couture camp. In his fight with Kaplan, his first after the move, Browning's punching was sharper, he added the dimension of kicking, had better footwork and better conditioning. He won with an armbar early in the second round, and even got the $25,000 "Fight of the Night" bonus for the show.

After finishing the show, Browning hooked up with Shawn Tompkins, a coach at Xtreme Couture, whose name Browning admitted he barely knew at first. Tompkins had Browning move in with him as he trained for the Kaplan fight. After the win, Browning moved full-time into a Las Vegas apartment with his girlfriend.

"I made the decision the first day to move there," Browning said. "I started at a real good school to learn the skills (Four Seasons MMA in Lexington), but most of the people there did jiu-jitsu as a hobby. We did a lot of traditional jiu-jitsu. We rolled around. It was a good place to learn but not to excel because of the lack of training partners."

Spike TV is hoping that ratings lightning strikes twice this coming season, as another Browning, Junie's younger brother Robert, ends up on the show.

"I made [Robert] try out," Junie said his brother. "The problem is, he's a 135-pounder who has to fight at 155 on the show. But he’s exactly like me.”

Source (http://mmajunkie.com/news/14415/the-junie-dilemma-brownings-success-is-tufs-problem.mma)

FunkYou
03-31-2009, 02:41 PM
The problm with TUF is that it is more interested in ratings than being a proving groud for young prospects to win themself a place in the big league. I understand tht it is a TV show so ratings are always gonna be its main focus.

However every year you hear contestants saying they weren't in shape so couldn't perform to a high standard.

These people know they are going on the show and that they will have to fight. Why aren't they in shape? The answer is of course that they know the UFC will reward them for their crappy attitude by giving them contracts irrelavent of how they fight as long as their mouth gets noticed on the show.

stitch1z
03-31-2009, 03:07 PM
I hope Junie loses an arm.

It's pitiful that behavior like that is rewarded.

EDIT: I mean I hope he loses an arm to Cole Miller. Not in a horrible accident.

Drogo
03-31-2009, 03:25 PM
The longer TUF goes on the more I hate it. It is exponential now. I loved the first season and by around season 5 or 6 I was hating it and now I loathe it beyond any ability to describe with words.

It isn't new fighters for the most part, at least half these guys are already established and have fought in decent sized orgs. They aren't prospects.

It holds up belts for months on end while the coaches dick around with this soap opera.

Retards like Browning are rewarded with multiple fights in the UFC despite being mediocre fighters.

God I wish this show would go away. I'm glad it was around since it helped boost MMA's popularity but it isn't needed now. It isn't gaining new fans, or at least not that many.

JT42
03-31-2009, 03:38 PM
This last season was really, really hard for me to watch. I found myself fast forwarding a lot of the shows. It has become more like the Real World than a place to showcase up and coming talent. Its not going to get any better either because they realize people like Junie create ratings

Maybe they should just create a TUF league so people who like crap like Junie does can watch that and the UFC events can be reserved for guys who actually deserve to be showcased.

Malky
03-31-2009, 03:40 PM
The longer TUF goes on the more I hate it. It is exponential now. I loved the first season and by around season 5 or 6 I was hating it and now I loathe it beyond any ability to describe with words.

It isn't new fighters for the most part, at least half these guys are already established and have fought in decent sized orgs. They aren't prospects.

It holds up belts for months on end while the coaches dick around with this soap opera.

Retards like Browning are rewarded with multiple fights in the UFC despite being mediocre fighters.

God I wish this show would go away. I'm glad it was around since it helped boost MMA's popularity but it isn't needed now. It isn't gaining new fans, or at least not that many.

Preach brother, exactly this. My only hope and it is a hope that the British guys will treat it as an opportunity to showcase their fighting skills as those chances here are few and far between.

Sinister
03-31-2009, 03:57 PM
The Ultimate Fighter is a Win-Lose for the UFC and MMA in general.

Win. It has provided us with amazing talent like Forrest Griffin, Rashad Evans, Michael Bisping and prospects like Phillipe Nover, Ryan Bader, Efrain Es....whatever his last name is.

Lose. It puts a bad name when guys like Junie appear on the show and put a bad name on fighters. Not only that, they show these antics that degrade the fighters like drinking urine, trashing the house, and semen on sushi.

vikingpride
03-31-2009, 07:21 PM
Like sinister said the show has good and bad aspects to it.

I really hope Cole dominates Junie and sends him packing form the UFC.

"I made [Robert] try out," Junie said his brother. "The problem is, he's a 135-pounder who has to fight at 155 on the show. But he’s exactly like me.”

Ok did this part make anyone else cringe?

stitch1z
03-31-2009, 07:24 PM
Ok did this part make anyone else cringe?

Yes sir, it did.

Wise
03-31-2009, 07:55 PM
I really hated last season. If Nog and Mir hadnt been the coaches I would have skipped over it entirely until the finale.

Junie really was a piece of shit on the show but you wonder how much of that is acting and how much of it was him being a legit shit head. Either way he really did look better against Kaplan and his cardio seemed to have been a hell of a lot better. Cole will be a real good test for him but I think hell pull out the split decision.

I just wish they focused more on the training in episodes then the house antics like they did in the earlier shows. You used to really be able to see the contrasting training styles of guys like Tito and Shamrock in the older TUF's. Now they show so little that it all looks the same to me.

Brad.Taschuk
03-31-2009, 08:00 PM
I watched the TUF Finale last season, and that was it. The show just doesn't interest me anymore. There are far more productive things I can be doing with my time.

Even though they were stupid and pointless, does anyone else miss the challenges? At least it gave Spike less time to show the garbage drama in the house.

Wise
03-31-2009, 08:10 PM
Even though they were stupid and pointless, does anyone else miss the challenges? At least it gave Spike less time to show the garbage drama in the house.

I actually really dug the old challenges. I think it was a nice way to let the fighters blow off some steam while still competing.

Plus it had some nice moments like when Joe Daddy did the shoulder crawls on Whitehead and just destroyed himself and then Rich decided to just forfeit to not tire Jorge out. Although Jorge freaked out like a freaking loony over it which was hilarious.

Brad.Taschuk
03-31-2009, 08:20 PM
That's the one that always sticks in my mind too.

Oh, and Rashad not being able to swim...




...because he's black

PunchDrunk
03-31-2009, 08:40 PM
I didn't like all of the drama of the last season, but I still watched (I avoided the parts where they were screwing with each others food though). My main complaint with the show is the quality of fighters. Why are fighters with 0-2 fights coming onto the show? I just don't understand, there has to be better/more developed fighters out there.

randyspankstito
04-01-2009, 10:59 AM
The Browning who fought on the reality show probably wouldn't last long with Miller. And Miller is hardly treating him like he's some sort of a gimmick.


LOL, how often do you hear that? That somebody won't last long against Cole Miller?

That cracks me up. I may just turn the TV off for 5 minutes in protest when this fight comes on tonight.