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Aaron
04-05-2009, 06:03 PM
By: Jason Charnes (jasonc84)

With the upcoming catch weight bout between Rich Franklin and Wanderlei Silva at UFC 99, there is much talk about a 195 lb division. Silva has suggested to UFC President Dana White that this should become a permanent weight division. He believes this division would be a new home for other fighters as well as himself.

Wanderlei has always been a small Light Heavy Weight (205 lbs) and that is finally catching up with him as he has lost 4 out of his last 5 MMA fights, and some feel these losses are due to his size disadvantage. He has been talking about making the cut to Middleweight (185lbs) but says the cut is a large one for him. A 195 lb division would offer him and others in his position a new home. Silva is said to walk around between 208-210 lbs, which he feels is a disadvantage with so many fighters cutting from upwards of 225lbs in the LHW division.

I think a 195 lb division is a bad idea for many reasons. Cutting I don’t believe is a disadvantage to any fighter because it is an option that is open to all fighters. If a fighter believes he is losing a fight due to his size he has a couple of options; he can either bulk up in size and cut more weight himself, or cut down to a lower weight division.

The biggest reason to not have a 195 lb division is the fact that it puts weight classes too close together. With a 195 lb division this would give many fighters the chance to fight between 3 divisions with ease. This offers many potential problems in itself. With fighters jumping between divisions, and possibly not fighting 2 consecutive fights in the same division, how is the UFC supposed to make rankings and have clear number one contenders? With the ability to fight so easily in more than one weight class, there is nothing stopping a fighter from gaining a title in 2 or maybe even 3 weight classes. With one fighter holding so many belts it would further confuse the number one contender status, as fighters would have to wait so long for a title shot. If one fighter had 3 belts he would most likely only defend each belt once a year.

While I feel for Wanderlei because he is a legend of the sport, I think he should put in the work to make the cut to Middle Weight if he wants to fight opponents more his size. He is not the first fighter to cut from Light Heavyweight to Middle Weight and by no means is he the largest fighter to make this cut. His upcoming opponent Rich Franklin is larger than Silva, and is the former champion of the Middle Weight division.

For those fighters in a similar position to Wanderlei’s I think their best option is to concentrate on their diet with a dietitian, and practice making weight cuts. With a closely monitored nutrition plan, and practice attempts at a cut, I see no reason the smaller Light Heavyweights can’t make the it down to Middleweight.

discuss

davet
04-05-2009, 06:10 PM
i think a 195lb division is a bad idea and wont happen, all it would achieve would be another title and probably reduce the talent pool of the middleweight and lightheavyweight divisions, if they do change any of the weightclasses i think splitting heavyweight into 2 would be better.

Flak
04-05-2009, 06:10 PM
I agree, 3 classes within 20lbs is too many.

Some might point to boxing or wrestling, but to me that's merely a model of what not to do. Too many belts, too many fighters moving around in weight (which proves to me that the small amount of weight between divisions is not as significant as some think), and makes the fight game too convoluted.

MMA began as trying to find out who the best fighter is, regardless of weight. Now naturally some divisions should exist to separate big differences in size, but the way it is now retains the original spirit of the sport, while leveling the playing field an acceptable degree.

Aaron
04-05-2009, 06:12 PM
my philosophy is cut more weight, bulk up more, or deal with it....no more divisions plz unless it's a FW and BW

PirateNinja415
04-05-2009, 06:20 PM
this was a good article, i also agree that adding a 195 division would be a little much. if the ufc's going to add any weight divisions it better be the 135 and 145ers, these guys need to be making the same kind of money that their heavier counterparts are earning

bbjd7
04-05-2009, 06:22 PM
I don't like the 195 weight.

Now I think that it should be 210, 195, and 180

But since 205 and 180 are set I don't like the idea of only a 10 lb cut between 195 and 205.

southpaw447
04-05-2009, 06:52 PM
It would help dilute the stacked LHW division but ultimately we don't need another division.

Wise
04-05-2009, 06:52 PM
I dont mind catch weight fights every once in awhile but I cant really think of that many guys who could really benefit from a 195 division. I guess Hendo, Rich, Wandy and Filho kind of jump out to mind.

JT42
04-05-2009, 07:20 PM
my philosophy is cut more weight, bulk up more, or deal with it....no more divisions plz unless it's a FW and BW

Totally agree

kc1983
04-06-2009, 01:54 PM
I really don't see this happening to be completely honest.
Like many have already stated - there have been a lot of fighters that make the cut from 205 to 185. I just don't see how the 195 division would benefit the organization.

If anything, the UFC should eliminate WEC and bring the 145 and 135 divisions over. Both of those divisions are pretty stacked at the moment and the fights are always exciting.

milkkid
04-06-2009, 02:19 PM
I dont mind catch weight fights every once in awhile but I cant really think of that many guys who could really benefit from a 195 division. I guess Hendo, Rich, Wandy and Filho kind of jump out to mind.

I'd add Goran Reljic to that list too.

Sinister
04-06-2009, 02:40 PM
I don't think the UFC can handle another division at the moment. They are having a hard getting their current 5 titles defended on a regular basis as it is.

JimDon
04-06-2009, 02:54 PM
Does Anderson Silva really need another belt anyway?

ThatGuyJae
04-07-2009, 09:24 AM
Does Anderson Silva really need another belt anyway?

HE has to come to mind when this division is spoken about. He easily is big enough to fight at LHW and could most likely be the champ there if he wanted to be. This new division would just be another Belt he could win.

randyspankstito
04-07-2009, 11:19 AM
I would be totally in favor of a 195 class. They'd have to pick up a few more fighters, but it would make it a more level playing field. Splitting up heavyweight would just be awful. There are barely enough guys there as is.

vexred
04-07-2009, 11:29 AM
I'd be interested to see this happen, potentially there could be some great fights at this weight, Hendo vs Wand for one. Also if they picked up fighters whom might not make mw anymore like Mousasi it would be a pretty competitive weight class.

Tripod
04-07-2009, 09:27 PM
3 weight classes with 10 pounds inbetween each? Not a good idea. It gives fighters "too much" flexibility and we'll be seeing way too much bouncing around in terms of weight classes. The last thing I want to see is more BJ Penns jumping weight classes or even Anderson Silva jumping weight classes. You're the champ of your weight class, and it's unfair to fighters that you can put the belt on hold like that.